I really like Sundew’s and Willow’s character development because they start out with these lowkey cliche mindsets. Sundew thinks anger is her only/best problem solver and Willow thinks it only causes problems. But what I adore is by the end of the book they don’t realize one is right and one is wrong, but find the middle ground. Sundew realizes letting her anger run wild isn’t healthy and that it doesn’t solve every problem, and Willow realizes she can use her anger to her advantage and that she shouldn’t always smush it down deep inside and ignore it. Also – they’re an adorable couple.
Ohh some facts for y’all! Sorry about the bad content, I’m writing off a cell phone with 20%
The reason Anemone and Albatross, etc look so weird is because they’re part icewing. Not sure if I believe it, but if it’s true, tsunami could be related to sunny, and tsunami is the rightful ruler of the icewings. Also, Sunny is inline for the sandwing and icewing throne, because Sunny’s father is stonemover and all nightwing animuses are descended from foeslayer and arctic.
I haven’t read any winglet books or whatever runaway is, but in pretty much all the fact videos it said that. It may be a headcannon, and it’s just like half the royal headcannon. Sounds a bit suspicious though, right?
Can I just say although both of these characters kind of annoy some people they are an adorable ship and like… Burnet x Silverspots is just… wonderful
I used to really dislike them because of how they asked Blue to hand himself in but honestly I think they were just terrified for him and terrified they would have to stop being together if they disobeyed Queen Wasp. Like come on, these two could have some awesome backstories if we really thought about it, I wonder what their past was. I prefer Burnet to Silverspots though idk why
Another really really really really good ship that I love love love love love is Luna and Swordtail
I absolutely hate Swordtail with a passion, idk why but him and Luna are cute together
I used to like Clay x Peril but I’m kind of going off that
Riptide x Tsunami is amazing and incredible and yes I love it so so so so so so so so so so so much
I’ve got mixed opinions on Kestrel. 😛 On the one paw, she was really mean to a lot of dragons all the time. On the other paw, she did really care about her dragonets.
Same opinion as Viperfrost. Kestrel was really mean but at least she kept the “Dragonets of Destiny” alive. And she didn’t want to kill one of her own dragonets either. (I think she should’ve resisted against the queen though.)
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And true, she was trying to prove to the queen she was loyal when she killed her own dragonet, but doing THAT?! That’s just horrible!
But I get that she’s not supposed to really be evil, and Kestrel is kind of half and half for me. 🙂
Burnetspot is a good ship, I agree. I also hate Swordtail with a strong passion, but I hate Lunatail in addition. Lunawatcher is honestly better imo. Cleril is an unhealthy obsession to me, I get why people like it but it isn’t the best ship out there, and there’s the huge double standard of people hating Peril/Cleril if they were genderbent. Pertle (Peril/Turtle) is also bad too. If you’re going to ship Peril x Turtle because he was her first friend, then remember that Pernelian (Peril/Carnelian) could be a ship too since they were implied to have been friends to some extent, judging how Carnelian reacted to her in Moon Rising. I don’t like Ripnami much since it felt like a squish and honestly, I ship Deathtide more than Glorybringer and Ripnami
I’m neutral on Kestrel and while I do feel bad for her, it doesn’t excuse her treatment of the dragonets whatsoever. It was disgusting to read through, if I’m being completely honest. Not to mention that while I feel bad for her having to kill her own dragonet, keep in mind that she had the choice to do it or not to do it- she willingly killed her own dragonet, and I find it wrong, no matter the circumstances. She’s definitely morally gray, but she’s my least favorite of the guardians of the DOD. Dune wasn’t as nearly as bad as her, and Webs was okay- I would’ve liked it if Dune survived, but I could care less for Kestrel. It’s too bad, seeing as I do like her name.
Ripnami I mainly ship platonically more so than romantically. Never heard of Deathtibe but that could be interesting, I do like Glorybringer though
Lunawatcher would be cute, I like that. ugrgjo;rgkapoirjgipsergnieukn Peril x Turtle is a big no no no no
I absolutely hate Kestrel as a person but as a character I adore her, like she was awful, but I find her past interesting and she was an interesting to read villain throughout the books
Dune and Webs were both great tbh compared with her
Ripnami just bores me, idk why. Glorybringer annoys me with the fact that Deathbringer doesn’t seem to have much of a personality outside of Glory; most of his character shows when he’s with Glory, and that really doesn’t strike it as a good ship. Deathtide is a ship I simply ship because Ripnami and Glorybringer are overrated and why not ship Deathbringer and Riptide together
Lunawatcher is my favorite Moonwatcher ship aside from Sorawatcher and Turtle x Moon x Kinkajou, I even made fan art of it. And yes Pertle is big no to me as well
Kestrel was a horrible person but a good character within the books, which is why I find her interesting. Dune and Webs were great compared to her imo
I love Burnet x Silverspot! I agree that they didn’t do the right thing but they didn’t know the whole situation and I don’t think they were trying to be malicious. I hope we see them again! They could get some nice development when they find out what’s really going on (and they’ll freak when they find out what their babies have been through and that they’re on another CONTINENT)
…I hope they’re okay I wouldn’t put it past Wasp to go after them if the threat of Malachite doesn’t work on Cricket
I like Luna and Swordtail but it’s not my favorite ship. Swordtail can be kinda annoying sometimes but he’s not that bad and I love how much he cares about Luna <3 (and Blue too, which is sweet) I also like Cleril and Ripnami!
Ehh, I like Kestrel, I think she's a very interesting character, but I will forever have beef with her for how she treated the Dragonets of Destiny. That's not how you treat children, even if she did do it out of love and care. I don't think she deserved to die when she did, and she could have been a really cool addition to the story later on (especially maybe as some sort of teacher at JMA like Webs?) if she'd lived.
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I didn’t think TPJ was the best like I thought it would be.
I don’t want to be offensive, but I feel like most of the book was a love story.
It just didn’t have the flair the others had.
I mean, sure, Darkstalker was kinda a love story, but I liked how everything was new and old and NightWing history was more detailed and how Clearsight could read the futures so well and etc.
and, again,I didn’t mean to offend anyone.
TPJ is probably my 3-4 favorite book.
But I did actually like how Wildew went super smoothly and not choppy.
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I’m currently reading The Poison Jungle, and so far, this in particular stuck out to me. This is why I personally REALLY dislike Sundew while Tsunami is up there on my favorites list:
“[TO SUNDEW] ‘We don’t wipe out entire tribes,’ she [Tsunami] said firmly. ‘And we will never help anyone who’d be willing to do that.'” – page 125
Even though Sundew appreciates Cricket and Bumblebee and kind of sees them as friends, she still wants to kill the rest of the HiveWings. Sundew is assuming they’re all horrible monsters. It probably has a lot to do with the mind control that makes her think they all have to die, but when they’re not being mind controlled, they’re all dragons, like Sundew, and she seems to forget that. I cannot agree with it. And she didn’t seem to care that the PoisonWings used Blue’s flamesilk against his will to burn down Bloodworm Hive!
I feel like I was offensive, so I will say here as well that I apologize and if you like Sundew, that’s fine, and everyone’s allowed their own opinion. And Sundew could get better still. I have hope. Willow and Sundew’s new friends are good influences to her. 🙂
Honestly same it’s why I hated Sundew before TPJ, though I’m neutral on her now. I hate the PoisonWings in general though, as well as Grayling to a lesser extent (I don’t care what he’s going through, wanting to kill several innocent dragons and dragonets out of hatred is disgusting).
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I finished “The Poison Jungle” yesterday (Wings of Fire books are VERY quick reads) and I personally (I don’t mean to be rude if you think differently) think the character development wasn’t well established. Willow technically got more angry and Sundew technically got less angry, but they didn’t outright tell one another they’d try to be more like the other, since Willow was (perhaps, in Sundew’s mind, and maybe it’s true) too little angry and Sundew was too angry all the time. But it didn’t feel like they actually completely decided to change, like I thought they would!
Also about character development, I was disappointed that Sundew had to have the LeafWings be in the HiveWings’ place in her mind for a moment to finally completely realize that not all dragons from the same tribes have to think alike. And she still seemed… somewhat bad to me. But yes, she did get better, and although I still dislike Sundew, I understand if you like her. She still had character development, she was still pretty good. I just keep going off and ranting rudely about her, sorry!! :O
I think the othermind idea happened so quickly! I almost didn’t understand what was going on at the very beginning of the Hawthorn/Willow/others-in-vines scene. It all changed so quickly. Once again, I think the establishment of a new villain and a twist was poorly developed.
I was somewhat disappointed in the book, since Wings of Fire books are great (but this one was still great enough, as I’ll say in a second), but I didn’t pick up the book with high expectations either (sorry…). Yet it was still a Wings of Fire book, I still read it in a day because it was still great in the long run, it was still hilarious and exciting… and Bumblebee was adorable, to be honest. And I’m not even a big little-kids person. Or little-dragonets, I suppose. XD
So yes, no offense to anybody, as this is once again just my humble opinion. You can think completely differently about this book and of course that’s okay. I guess I just… needed to rant about how I felt? 😛
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I don’t know why I feel the need to correct myself so much (XD) but I’m a grammar freak, so yeah… In my post before this super-long one above, I put “she [Tsunami]” and I think it’s supposed to replace the “she”. Also, I put “influences to her” and I think I meant “influences for her”…? I don’t know. If anybody knows and wants to correct me, go right ahead. 😛
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Inchworm was never mentioned again. Of course he didn’t get cured, but I was wondering who he was with when he became all crazy-eyed again. Or if he was on his own. Or what became of him…? Do you think he saw Glowworm crazy-eyed before he became crazy-eyed again? That and other things were never mentioned again…
Yes, that’s the point of her development. During TPJ (and the entire arc, as she meets Cricket, Bumblebee, Blue, Luna, & Swordtail) Sundew starts to realize that blind, violent anger isn’t always the way to go and that the HiveWings & SilkWings aren’t all bad. She’s not there yet, obviously. But she’s making progress.
Sundew is slowly getting better, thankfully. I personally was dreading her POV because I didn’t want to read about her wanting to kill all HiveWings and hating all of them and the SilkWings who don’t agree with the PoisonWings.
Now if only there was development for a few other PoisonWings that was like that too. Maybe then I’d like more of them (I dislike/hate Bryony, Grayling, Belladonna, Hemlock, Pokeweed, most likely more I’m forgetting).
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I really like Sundew’s and Willow’s character development because they start out with these lowkey cliche mindsets. Sundew thinks anger is her only/best problem solver and Willow thinks it only causes problems. But what I adore is by the end of the book they don’t realize one is right and one is wrong, but find the middle ground. Sundew realizes letting her anger run wild isn’t healthy and that it doesn’t solve every problem, and Willow realizes she can use her anger to her advantage and that she shouldn’t always smush it down deep inside and ignore it. Also – they’re an adorable couple.
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🌊 Queen of Canon Correcting🌊I have a big squish on Clay 😛 I wish there where more books starring the characters from the first series, specifically him 😛
Remember me for centuries-F4swOhh some facts for y’all! Sorry about the bad content, I’m writing off a cell phone with 20%
The reason Anemone and Albatross, etc look so weird is because they’re part icewing. Not sure if I believe it, but if it’s true, tsunami could be related to sunny, and tsunami is the rightful ruler of the icewings. Also, Sunny is inline for the sandwing and icewing throne, because Sunny’s father is stonemover and all nightwing animuses are descended from foeslayer and arctic.
I might be missing something, but what leads you to believe the Seawings and part Icewing beside them both being animuses?
reality is an illusionI haven’t read any winglet books or whatever runaway is, but in pretty much all the fact videos it said that. It may be a headcannon, and it’s just like half the royal headcannon. Sounds a bit suspicious though, right?
*insert something sarcastic*That’s a good theory and I’ve heard it before but that means all SeaWings (or royal SeaWings) are part IceWing
🌊 Queen of Canon Correcting🌊Helllloooooooooo! I just started reading a few days agooo sooooo I’m on the Lost Heir
I am the darkness, the cruel.Ooh cool do you like it so far? Who’s your favorite character?
🌊 Queen of Canon Correcting🌊Can I just say although both of these characters kind of annoy some people they are an adorable ship and like… Burnet x Silverspots is just… wonderful
I used to really dislike them because of how they asked Blue to hand himself in but honestly I think they were just terrified for him and terrified they would have to stop being together if they disobeyed Queen Wasp. Like come on, these two could have some awesome backstories if we really thought about it, I wonder what their past was. I prefer Burnet to Silverspots though idk why
Another really really really really good ship that I love love love love love is Luna and Swordtail
I absolutely hate Swordtail with a passion, idk why but him and Luna are cute together
I used to like Clay x Peril but I’m kind of going off that
Riptide x Tsunami is amazing and incredible and yes I love it so so so so so so so so so so so much
am I the only one who loves Kestrel ?
Somewhere that’s GreenI’ve got mixed opinions on Kestrel. 😛 On the one paw, she was really mean to a lot of dragons all the time. On the other paw, she did really care about her dragonets.
reality is an illusionSame opinion as Viperfrost. Kestrel was really mean but at least she kept the “Dragonets of Destiny” alive. And she didn’t want to kill one of her own dragonets either. (I think she should’ve resisted against the queen though.)
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And true, she was trying to prove to the queen she was loyal when she killed her own dragonet, but doing THAT?! That’s just horrible!
But I get that she’s not supposed to really be evil, and Kestrel is kind of half and half for me. 🙂
Honestly I have no idea why I like her 😛 I guess I just find morally grey characters interesting 😛
Somewhere that’s GreenI love those books that have gray characters that did a bad thing for a good reason and it’s something like revenge vs. morality 😛
Cheet4SWYeah, I agree with Viperfrost 😛
I guess I just love controversial characters, like Onestar from warriors
Somewhere that’s GreenBurnetspot is a good ship, I agree. I also hate Swordtail with a strong passion, but I hate Lunatail in addition. Lunawatcher is honestly better imo. Cleril is an unhealthy obsession to me, I get why people like it but it isn’t the best ship out there, and there’s the huge double standard of people hating Peril/Cleril if they were genderbent. Pertle (Peril/Turtle) is also bad too. If you’re going to ship Peril x Turtle because he was her first friend, then remember that Pernelian (Peril/Carnelian) could be a ship too since they were implied to have been friends to some extent, judging how Carnelian reacted to her in Moon Rising. I don’t like Ripnami much since it felt like a squish and honestly, I ship Deathtide more than Glorybringer and Ripnami
I’m neutral on Kestrel and while I do feel bad for her, it doesn’t excuse her treatment of the dragonets whatsoever. It was disgusting to read through, if I’m being completely honest. Not to mention that while I feel bad for her having to kill her own dragonet, keep in mind that she had the choice to do it or not to do it- she willingly killed her own dragonet, and I find it wrong, no matter the circumstances. She’s definitely morally gray, but she’s my least favorite of the guardians of the DOD. Dune wasn’t as nearly as bad as her, and Webs was okay- I would’ve liked it if Dune survived, but I could care less for Kestrel. It’s too bad, seeing as I do like her name.
ketchup is a smoothieRipnami I mainly ship platonically more so than romantically. Never heard of Deathtibe but that could be interesting, I do like Glorybringer though
Lunawatcher would be cute, I like that. ugrgjo;rgkapoirjgipsergnieukn Peril x Turtle is a big no no no no
I absolutely hate Kestrel as a person but as a character I adore her, like she was awful, but I find her past interesting and she was an interesting to read villain throughout the books
Dune and Webs were both great tbh compared with her
Somewhere that’s GreenRipnami just bores me, idk why. Glorybringer annoys me with the fact that Deathbringer doesn’t seem to have much of a personality outside of Glory; most of his character shows when he’s with Glory, and that really doesn’t strike it as a good ship. Deathtide is a ship I simply ship because Ripnami and Glorybringer are overrated and why not ship Deathbringer and Riptide together
Lunawatcher is my favorite Moonwatcher ship aside from Sorawatcher and Turtle x Moon x Kinkajou, I even made fan art of it. And yes Pertle is big no to me as well
Kestrel was a horrible person but a good character within the books, which is why I find her interesting. Dune and Webs were great compared to her imo
ketchup is a smoothieVery true, she was the worst of the guardians
I love Burnet x Silverspot! I agree that they didn’t do the right thing but they didn’t know the whole situation and I don’t think they were trying to be malicious. I hope we see them again! They could get some nice development when they find out what’s really going on (and they’ll freak when they find out what their babies have been through and that they’re on another CONTINENT)
…I hope they’re okay I wouldn’t put it past Wasp to go after them if the threat of Malachite doesn’t work on Cricket
I like Luna and Swordtail but it’s not my favorite ship. Swordtail can be kinda annoying sometimes but he’s not that bad and I love how much he cares about Luna <3 (and Blue too, which is sweet) I also like Cleril and Ripnami!
Ehh, I like Kestrel, I think she's a very interesting character, but I will forever have beef with her for how she treated the Dragonets of Destiny. That's not how you treat children, even if she did do it out of love and care. I don't think she deserved to die when she did, and she could have been a really cool addition to the story later on (especially maybe as some sort of teacher at JMA like Webs?) if she'd lived.
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I didn’t think TPJ was the best like I thought it would be.
I don’t want to be offensive, but I feel like most of the book was a love story.
It just didn’t have the flair the others had.
I mean, sure, Darkstalker was kinda a love story, but I liked how everything was new and old and NightWing history was more detailed and how Clearsight could read the futures so well and etc.
and, again,I didn’t mean to offend anyone.
TPJ is probably my 3-4 favorite book.
But I did actually like how Wildew went super smoothly and not choppy.
DistantKingdomSuperDragonMagic*SPOILERS FOR “THE POISON JUNGLE”*
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I’m currently reading The Poison Jungle, and so far, this in particular stuck out to me. This is why I personally REALLY dislike Sundew while Tsunami is up there on my favorites list:
“[TO SUNDEW] ‘We don’t wipe out entire tribes,’ she [Tsunami] said firmly. ‘And we will never help anyone who’d be willing to do that.'” – page 125
Even though Sundew appreciates Cricket and Bumblebee and kind of sees them as friends, she still wants to kill the rest of the HiveWings. Sundew is assuming they’re all horrible monsters. It probably has a lot to do with the mind control that makes her think they all have to die, but when they’re not being mind controlled, they’re all dragons, like Sundew, and she seems to forget that. I cannot agree with it. And she didn’t seem to care that the PoisonWings used Blue’s flamesilk against his will to burn down Bloodworm Hive!
I feel like I was offensive, so I will say here as well that I apologize and if you like Sundew, that’s fine, and everyone’s allowed their own opinion. And Sundew could get better still. I have hope. Willow and Sundew’s new friends are good influences to her. 🙂
Honestly same it’s why I hated Sundew before TPJ, though I’m neutral on her now. I hate the PoisonWings in general though, as well as Grayling to a lesser extent (I don’t care what he’s going through, wanting to kill several innocent dragons and dragonets out of hatred is disgusting).
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I finished “The Poison Jungle” yesterday (Wings of Fire books are VERY quick reads) and I personally (I don’t mean to be rude if you think differently) think the character development wasn’t well established. Willow technically got more angry and Sundew technically got less angry, but they didn’t outright tell one another they’d try to be more like the other, since Willow was (perhaps, in Sundew’s mind, and maybe it’s true) too little angry and Sundew was too angry all the time. But it didn’t feel like they actually completely decided to change, like I thought they would!
Also about character development, I was disappointed that Sundew had to have the LeafWings be in the HiveWings’ place in her mind for a moment to finally completely realize that not all dragons from the same tribes have to think alike. And she still seemed… somewhat bad to me. But yes, she did get better, and although I still dislike Sundew, I understand if you like her. She still had character development, she was still pretty good. I just keep going off and ranting rudely about her, sorry!! :O
I think the othermind idea happened so quickly! I almost didn’t understand what was going on at the very beginning of the Hawthorn/Willow/others-in-vines scene. It all changed so quickly. Once again, I think the establishment of a new villain and a twist was poorly developed.
I was somewhat disappointed in the book, since Wings of Fire books are great (but this one was still great enough, as I’ll say in a second), but I didn’t pick up the book with high expectations either (sorry…). Yet it was still a Wings of Fire book, I still read it in a day because it was still great in the long run, it was still hilarious and exciting… and Bumblebee was adorable, to be honest. And I’m not even a big little-kids person. Or little-dragonets, I suppose. XD
So yes, no offense to anybody, as this is once again just my humble opinion. You can think completely differently about this book and of course that’s okay. I guess I just… needed to rant about how I felt? 😛
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I don’t know why I feel the need to correct myself so much (XD) but I’m a grammar freak, so yeah… In my post before this super-long one above, I put “she [Tsunami]” and I think it’s supposed to replace the “she”. Also, I put “influences to her” and I think I meant “influences for her”…? I don’t know. If anybody knows and wants to correct me, go right ahead. 😛
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Inchworm was never mentioned again. Of course he didn’t get cured, but I was wondering who he was with when he became all crazy-eyed again. Or if he was on his own. Or what became of him…? Do you think he saw Glowworm crazy-eyed before he became crazy-eyed again? That and other things were never mentioned again…
Yes, that’s the point of her development. During TPJ (and the entire arc, as she meets Cricket, Bumblebee, Blue, Luna, & Swordtail) Sundew starts to realize that blind, violent anger isn’t always the way to go and that the HiveWings & SilkWings aren’t all bad. She’s not there yet, obviously. But she’s making progress.
🌊 Queen of Canon Correcting🌊Yes, I suppose. 😛
I just don’t like “The Poison Jungle” for some reason…
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Sundew is slowly getting better, thankfully. I personally was dreading her POV because I didn’t want to read about her wanting to kill all HiveWings and hating all of them and the SilkWings who don’t agree with the PoisonWings.
Now if only there was development for a few other PoisonWings that was like that too. Maybe then I’d like more of them (I dislike/hate Bryony, Grayling, Belladonna, Hemlock, Pokeweed, most likely more I’m forgetting).
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