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Why I like Or Don’t Hate Some Cats People HATE By Maplekit


Maplekit discusses the good sides of some hated warriors


Okay, So, the cats in the center of attention in this article are

Okay First let me say why people hate some of these cats

Ashfur-He tried to kill Squirrelflight and Leafpool’s kits. He wouldn’t get over Squirrelflight

Goosefeather-His omens/prophecies/other random medicine cat stuff got cats injured and killed.

Firestar-He was too ‘perfect’.

Sandstorm-Annoying, turn around just from Fireheart not letting her fall after teasing him and hating him and stuff

Leafpool-Running off with Crowfeather, being annoying, having kits, all that jazz

Squirrelflight-Helping Leafpool, lying, being annoying, being like a Sandpaw 2.0 but worse

Ferncloud-Kit machine did no work for her clan

Daisy-Another kit machine that doesn’t work for her clan, padded after Cloudtail when she FIRST joined the clan

Millie-Neglecting Blossombae and Bumblebae to be with Briarbae, got Greystripe over Siverstream sortofish

Hollyleaf-Her love for the warrior code, being annoying, killing Ashfur, revealing the secret

Bluestar-Her insanity, her being annoying

Mapleshade-Her only love for her kits, her killing cats

Dovewing-Her relationship with Tigerheart, she being all annoying, a little bit of a Mary-Sue

Okay…now that I’ve told you why people hate these cats, I’ll put my argument against it.

Okay, first thing-Your saying you wouldn’t be heart-broken if your crush said right to your face they don’t love you and go with a another person and later have kids with them? -_- I can agree he shouldn’t have tried to KILL Squirrelflight and Leafpool’s kits but he should’ve said something, not just roam around-Sorrowful, Regretful, depressed, heart-broken, angry, He should’ve tried to get over it, look for a new mate, or something like that. Ignore Squirrelflight and Brambleclaw, try to be happier.

GOOSEFEATHER- (I’m prepared for Jayie hate 😛 )
Ya know, I did hate him before I read Goosefeather’s Curse. But he had a tough life. He had a power to deal with seeing StarClan cats everywhere, Having no friends and being hated by other cats, hear the mentor he loved say she had to die to help the clan, and have his sister’s mate be his enemy, Man, I’d be grumpy too. It’s not like he TRIED to HURT or KILL the cats that were affected by his omens/prophecies/medicine cat shtoof.

I think the reason his flaws went away to some people is because we didn’t get his POV anymore, he still has flaws, and would a oh-so-perfect character die? The answer-NO. He still definitely has flaws, we just can’t find them out by reading a chapter. You have to anilyze, theorize, and guess, put it together you might find out what his thoughts are and find more flaws.

Okay, first, why is FirexSand sometimes hated when it’s very, very developed and SpottedxFIre is sometimes loved, when they only really interacted once, normally, and SPOTTEDSTALKER FLOPPIN’ ONLY LIVED FOR LIKE 90 PAGES. >:( RAWR. Two, she grew out of her annoyingness, why still hate her? She’s a wonderful mother and a great cat. Three, Fireheart saving her isn’t the only reason she fell in love with him. The slowly, and normally, developed love for each other.

Okay so, if you REALLY REALLY REALLY loved another cat, and wanted to follow your dreams and be with them, instead of being in a medicine den healing cats, which would you do? Leafpool followed her dreams and went with Crowfeather. She came back, no big deal, at least she came back and ThunderClan wasn’t medicine catless. So, yeah, It’s not like she could stop her self from having kits when she found out, how was she supposed to change that? So she had to lie, or something could happen to her, her kits, or both. Yeah.

So, your saying if your sibling that you’re best friends with needed help and could’ve gotten hurt or worse you wouldn’t lie to help them? -_______________- -_-
Really? REALLY? REALLY?!! And, you need a character with quite a bit of flaws sometimes. Flawed characters are cute, and funny to read about, as was Squirrelpaw. And she grew out of it, became mature, an excellent mother like Sandstorm. Even deputy.

She did plenty for her clan, she provided them with four excellent warriors, and Birchfall and Spiderleg had kits so she technically provided the clan with eight warriors. We’ll have to see if Dove, Ivy, or Rose have kits to find out if she provided more. When she wasn’t in the nursery she was a normal warrior, hunting, and doing warrior stuff. She protected the kits of the clan and died bravely defending Brightheart and her kits.

She also provided her clan with warriors. She provided five excellent warriors. And since Berrynose had kits she technically provided the clan with seven warriors. Though she could provide more if we see if Rose, Cherry, or Mole have kits. We’ll have to wait. But she helps the queens and kits, which brings more warriors into the clan. Also, she realized that Cloudtail had a mate and didn’t love her, she didn’t do anything bad so. Yup.

Okay, first I’m gonna talk about people hating her for being Greystripe’s second mate in like two sentences. Apparently fans didn’t want Greystripe to get over SIlverstream and not pick a new mate and be forever alone cause apparently that’s how love works. Like, really? You want Greystripe to be alone. And it’s been said that she wishes she could spend more time with Bumblebae and Blossombae, so, yeah. She doesn’t want to neglect them, she doesn’t try to either.

So she liked the warrior code, so what, once again characters need to have flaws, they can’t be perfect, but they can’t be completely bad either, they have to have flaws and good qualities. Like Tigerbutt was a good fighter and good at convincing cats to believe his lies, but he was downright evil, and mean, and a killer. Good balance. She knew she had to stick to the warrior code and tell the clans about the secret, it stressed her out too, she had to get it out. And she wanted to protect the secret before she knew how bad it was, and she was horrified that the other clans would make fun of ThunderClan even more because of her heritage. So she killed him.

So, once again, you’re saying if a member of your clan was a traitor and tried to kill you, your former mate that you loved died, and you found out your kids hated you you wouldn’t be a bit crazy? She made it up for her clan in the end, sacrificing herself to kill the dogs to save her clan. Her kits forgave her, she and Oakheart became mates again, and she was normal again in StarClan. She was a great cat and had a hard life too. Don’t hate her.

She was a great cat, she wanted to avenge her kits, she was upset that her kits died, she was exiled with her kits and her kits did nothing. She didn’t get to see them, Appledusk did nothing to help her. and she wanted to save her kits. So she killed the cats who ruined her life and her kits lives to avenge her kits, so her kits could make it safely to StarClan and enjoy there lives there.

I don’t like her but I don’t hate her either. Though I wish she would’ve stayed with Bumblestripe. It’s not her fault the prophecy chose her, not Hollyleaf, she didn’t want want her powers, I bet if she could she would’ve gladly given her powers to Hollyleaf. She ended her relationships with Tigerheart and Bumblestripe, she lost her powers, she isn’t really that special or important or Mary Sueish anymore.

So yeah, these are my arguments against the people who don’t like these cats. Yup. 🙂

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  • Graystripe’s story is like
    Palebird’s, Talltail’s mother. She had a mate, Sandgorse, but he died, so she found a new mate in Woollytail

  • I didn’t read it all because I’m only almost done Dawn of The New Prophecy so I don’t want more spoilers. But, how can people see Firestar as too perfect? He has a lot of flaws, even if it is not threw his perspective anymore I can still see his flaws. I mean in The New Prophecy he is a huge jerk to Squirrelpaw and Brambleclaw because of a very vague prophecy and I know he was trying to protect his clan but he was really mean and unseemlily cold to them both. Later, in Dawn when Graystripe is taken away by the twolegs Firestar can’t get over his friend and refuses to name a new deputy even though the clan really needed one at that time, even Leporstar had enough sense to appoint Hawkfrost as temporary deputy when Mistyfoot was taken by twolegs but Firestar is to grief stricken over his friend. Not to mention Firestar constantly breaking the warrior code. Anyway, I love Firestar he is stupid but a likeable stupid and I just wanted to point out some flaws in him i’ve seen so far in The New Prophecy just so people know he is not toooo perfect. I also find he has a huge hero complex which is fine but I find he is like this even after the first series so far at least.

    • I agree Firestar has lots of flaws. One that comes up later in the series is that he spends too much time helping other clans and is too paws off with his own clan.

  • YES!!!! I wish that DoveXBumble was still a thing 🙁 I have had enough of secret relationships…. There are just too many!!!

  • I like most of these, except, Ashfur, Millie, and Daisy.

    There is a difference between normal heart break and being a psychopath. Ashfur didn’t love Squirrelflight. If he loved her, he would not have tried to hurt her. Heartbreak is not a justifiable reason to hurt someone.

    First off, I don’t have a problem with Millie being Graystripe’s 2nd love. I actually wanted Dustpelt and Sandstorm to get together after the Omen Stars series. I don’t Graystripe had to fall in love a second time to be happy. Bluestar and Crookedstar never took a second mate and they were happy. Millie does neglect Blossomfall and Bumblestripe, she was apathetic when Hazeltail told her Blossomfall was ill. She didn’t care when her daughter limped into camp with a nasty cut on her head. Where do we see Millie making an effort to be there for them? Does she invite them to share prey with her and Briarlight? Does she show them love and kindness when she has the chance? I also have to mention that I disliked Millie long before the Briarlight drama. She has always felt like an unnecessary random throw in character or someone’s oc. After reading the warriors manga, I honestly did not want to see more of her character. I feel like she didn’t add anything to the series. She also isn’t very nice to other characters. Millie yelled at Squirrelflight for correcting Blossompaw, disrespected Jayfeather, and gave Bramblestar a hard time when he was trying to Briarlight to safety. When do we ever see her apologize or say thank you to another character?

    Daisy didn’t try to adjust to Clan life. I don’t see why she gets out of learning how to hunt and fight. She is an abled-bodied cat there is no reason for her not to be a warrior. When Firestar joined the Clan Bluestar made it clear he had to pull his own weight. In Skyclan’s Destiny, Clovertail is pushed to become stronger and recognize a cause greater than herself. With Daisy it felt like the writers were breaking their own rules. If Daisy out grew her flaws then maybe I could like her.

    I like Ferncloud, but feel like the writers could have wrote her better. I didn’t like how she got out of the nursery at the end of New prophecy, only for the writers to throw her back in at the beginning of Power of three. It was getting repetitive with the writers re-impregnating her so frequently. There were dozens of other she-cats in the clan the writers could have made queens. We never really got to see Ferncloud shine as a warrior or mentor an apprentice. She lost all her courage from the first series. In the first series she bravely volunteers to lead the dogs away from camp, in Firestar’s quest she has become whiny. I think the writers could have made her appeal to the readers more if we got scene where her nurturing nature is just what is needed to save the day. Such as having her reach out to Blossomfall after her mother demeans her in front of the clan. Or having Ferncloud be the one to go look for Poppyfrost, when she wanders off. That would have shown her actively taking care of pregnant queens. I think it would have worked better if Ferncloud was the one to go after Daisy when she goes back to the horse place in New prophecy. Since Ferncloud is one of Daisy’s close friends it would make sense for her to be the one to convince her to come back to the clan. Daisy could confide in Ferncloud about her heartbreak over finding out that Cloudtail has a mate and her shame over how she treated Brightheart. Ferncloud could give Daisy the encouragement to come back. I also think Ferncloud would have been a great mentor for Daisy.

  • I am FURIOUS that people hate Bluestar for her insanity. She was trapped by her past, she couldn’t let go, and it drove her insane. I have experienced a milder version of what she did

    1. Sorry, the website posted the comment when I wasn’t ready! Now, where was I…I am FURIOUS that people hate Bluestar for her insanity. She was trapped by her past, she couldn’t let go, and it drove her insane. I have experienced a milder version of what she did. I lost a dear friend when I moved house and at my school, I was constantly teased. And this drove me mad slightly. I was incapable of making friends, I pulled away, hid on purpose, refused others invitations. I would burst into tears at school and home, sometimes my rants go so bad it was like my whole body was on fire. I couldn’t even love my own mother properly, yes I said I love her and stuff but I couldn’t feel the pleasure of her being near me. If anyone dares to hurt Bluestar after her insanity I will be personally hurt.
  • MY OPINION: I cannot believe people hate Sandstorm, Firestar, Bluestar, Hollyleaf, Leafpool and Squirrelflight! Firestar isn’t perfect, he’s just skilled (haters probaly are jealous in my opinion no offence) and he’s more heartbroken then haters ever will be! Sandstorm is just determined and sExY, and I think she’s awesome! Bluestar went insane but hey people like Mapleshade! Hollyleaf is just loyal and Ashfur was really annoying I was like “GO HOLLYLEAF”, Leafpool is just heartbroken, guys. Squirrelflight is so innocent BRAMBLECLAW SHOULD BE HATED (sorry Bramble fans I just hate him). Five words for haters: STOP. HATING. THE. WRONG. CATS!!!
    Another 10 words for haters: YOU’RE. ALLOWED. TO. HATE. BUT. HATE. FOR. GOOD. TRUE. REASONS!!!

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