Discussing the Cats of the Dark Forest; by Sunscorch

Get ready for today’s article curator, Sunscorch, to deliver you an in depth discussion on the cats of the Darrrrrrk Forest.

Hey everyone! Sunscorch here, and I’m going to give you a long lecture about the cats of the Dark Forest! (Or, if you prefer, just a discussion…)

1, Brokenstar:

First off, I think Brokenstar is a lot more complex than just simply “evil”. He was influenced as a kit by Lizardstripe, who gave him little affection and tried to make him feel unwanted and unloved. Lizardstripe was also a rather tough she-cat, and that was where he got his ruthlessness and fierceness. Yellowfang admitted that it was her mistake that she had not given him enough love and care, and Brokenstar really wasn’t that bad as a kit. He was also too reckless and eager to prove himself, because his denmates Tanglekit/burr, Deerkit/foot, and Runningkit/nose teased him about no one knowing who his mother was. They often excluded him in games, just for that reason. I think he could’ve become a great leader if he had been given care as a kit.

2, Tigerstar:

Tigerstar, like Brokenstar, had an influence: Thistleclaw. Since Thistleclaw was his mentor, he probably taught him to be ruthless and to love battle. He does have a soft spot, as he was kind to Sasha when she met him. Though Tigerstar is in the Dark Forest, he truly believes that he is doing the right thing and just like any other cat. StarClan chose him to be leader of ShadowClan because they thought that he was a worthy leader and that he was destined to lead ShadowClan. For those who argue, I shall tell you that StarClan cannot do everything.


3, Mapleshade:

Since a lot of people have read Mapleshade’s Vengeance, many of you also understand Mapleshade. I’d probably do the same thing if that happened to me, and I have a lot of sympathy for her. Appledusk loved her, but he loved his position in RiverClan more. Reedshine was being selfish and didn’t care about Mapleshade, she only wanted to get rid of her so Appledusk could be her mate. Oakstar was also selfish, holding grudges against her for something that Appledusk did, not her. Same with Frecklewish. A lot of other cats went again the warrior code and had kits with a cat from another Clan, and they didn’t get punished (*cough* Graystripe and Silverstream, Crowfeather and Leafpool, Fallowtail and Reedfeather, Bluestar and Oakheart, *cough*). Her kits didn’t deserve to die, neither are they “half-Clan creatures”. I’m talking to you, Frecklewish!

4, Thistleclaw:

I’m not sure about Thistleclaw. It seemed that being evil was just in his personality, though I think he is more complex than that. It’d be great if a novella was written about him. He did have a hint of decency though, as he was really nice to Snowfur and Whitestorm (although he was less warm to his sister-in-law).

5, Hawkfrost:

Hawkfrost was mostly just ambitious, but his father Tigerstar swayed him and caused him to go too far, to point where he deliberately got rid of Stormfur to be deputy. He just wanted to be leader, kind of like Oakheart, though Oakheart had a better personality. Maybe he could’ve been different, and maybe not. Like Thistleclaw, I’d like to see a novella written about him.

And yeah, that’s about it! I know I didn’t cover all of the Dark Forest cats, but I did the main ones. Let me know what you think in the comments!


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Pantherpaw (Panther that Lurks in Shadows)
Pantherpaw (Panther that Lurks in Shadows)
August 30, 2016 2:03 pm

This is interesting, Sunscorch. Loved how you really went in depth on the cats to try uncover their motives.

August 30, 2016 2:08 pm

Good analysis of the characters. I have a better understanding for the characters and have a little more sympathy and empathy. I still think the ways they dealt with their problems were unhealthy for them and for others. Yes, each of them were treated unfairly, but there are better ways to dealing with grief and stress than becoming evil killers. Also, even though they were influenced by others, they still had the freedom to make their own choices. They chose to be evil, no one forced them.

August 30, 2016 3:40 pm

Nice article and about Tigerstar (spoilers here) I heard that Mapleshade lured pinestar to the dark forest to become a kitty pet so that Tigerstar could i think become a good warrior. Pinestar left because he wanted Tigerstar to be a great warrior to the clan and believed that this was the only way. And then Mapleshade started walking in Tigerstar’s dreams and influencing him as well as Thistleclaw. And also about Thistleclaw When he was a kit and an apprentice, he was just arrogant and his mentor was adderfang who was a great warrior and a great cat too. So I think that during the end of his apprenticeship, Mapleshade started walking in his dreams. That’s why he was so good to Snowfur and Whitestorm

Ramona Zachary
Ramona Zachary
August 30, 2016 3:54 pm

I really enjoy reading different interpretations. It shows the author’s huge talent with empathy, intuition and well rounded knowledge of human psyche via the clan members. 🙂

August 30, 2016 4:12 pm

I think Thistleclaw should have gone to StarClan because he was violent and arrogant, but he didn’t do anything evil or against the Warrior Code.

Brightwing - Bright Wing of Mountain Bluebird
Brightwing - Bright Wing of Mountain Bluebird
August 30, 2016 4:20 pm

Great article Sunscorch!

August 30, 2016 4:35 pm

Personally I don’t blame Thistleclaw for the way Tigerstar was. I blame Sunstar, Pinestar, and Adderfang. First of all Pinestar decided “hey! Lets give this very ambitious kit (Thistlekit) to the most ambitious cat in the clan (Adderfang)!” Then Pinestar goes and is like “Goodbye my loving mate that is so much younger than me. I’m going to leave you to raise 3 kits by yourself! Good luck!” Rendering Tigerkit with no father. Really. Then Sunstar is like “Hey it’s a great idea to give this really ambitious kit (Tigerkit) to this really ambitious cat (Thistleclaw). So basically it’s all Sunstar and Pinestar’s fault with a bit of Adderfang.

Oh and you forgot about Ravenwing the medicine cat. He’s the one who decided it was his ‘duty’ to tell the clan the kits were half-clan. He’s such a fox-heart.

August 30, 2016 6:07 pm

i agree that Ravenwing is a fox-heart. Didn’t he understand that it would just break down mapleshade a lot. if ravenwing hadn’t told the clan then everything might have gone okay.

Bluepaw (Bluemist)
Bluepaw (Bluemist)
August 30, 2016 9:03 pm

I never really think about the DF cats.
TBH I think that they all still had the chance to not do what they did.

Mapleshade shouldn’t ve gotten into that relationship in the first place. (I still agree if I was in a similar situation I would do the same)

Brokenstar should’ve proven he was the best, loyal warrior, not ruthless and unrelenting.

Tigerstar I think was warned about what he would do.

Hawkfrost from the start was going to be in the DF (I predicted it five seconds after I read about him)

I agree with Shadowpaw for Thistleclaw.

But I agree, all their lives weren’t the best and SC knew they should’ve intervened.

Emberpaw (Emberfang)
Emberpaw (Emberfang)
August 30, 2016 9:27 pm

Awesome! 😀

Butterflypaw (Butterflyflower)
Butterflypaw (Butterflyflower)
August 30, 2016 9:59 pm

Hawkfrost is my second favorite cat 💜💜💜

August 30, 2016 10:56 pm

Good article! But I’m not forgiving Hawkfrost 😛

August 31, 2016 1:01 am

great article! however i am not forgiving them that easily there is a reason why they went to the dark forest i like your theory about hawkfrost great job

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