Can Medicine Cats Sense How Many Lives Leaders Have Left? A Warriors Theory by Jaypaw

Jaypaw shares an interesting theory about the medicine cats in the Warriors universe.

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Hello BlogClan! Today I want to talk about one moment that has always stood out to me in the original series.
SPOILER ALERT!
Bluestar is on her last life, and Yellowfang knows. She tells Fireheart that medicine cats can sense this sort of thing.

This seems like a really cool ability for medicine cats, but we never really see it being used. No medicine cat apprentices are ever seen being trained on this, and full medicine cats never know how many lives leaders have, so so let’s assume she was lying. But why, and how did she know?

Option 1: This is an extension of Yellowfang’s Power
If you’ve read Yellowfang’s Secret, you know Yellowfang has the ability to feel the pain of other cats. This could extend to feeling how many lives leader’s have. This would explain why she lied to Fireheart. She can’t tell every cat about her power! Maybe having only one life left is a sort of emotional pain that Yellowfang’s spidey senses – I mean superpower, can pick up. But she never felt a thing like that with Cedarstar, Raggedstar, or Brokenstar, or at least we don’t see it.

Option Two: Yellowfang saw Bluestar’s lost lives in StarClan
In OoTS, Jayfeather sees Firestar’s lost lives in StarClan. After Firestar loses a life, he sees it again and the shape is darker. It’s possible Yellowfang saw Bluestar’s lives in StarClan, and noticed how dark it was. She might not have told Fireheart because it would take a while to explain and it would take away from the focus of the moment. This one is possible, since Yellowfang’s a medicine cat, but the moment happened soon after Bluestar lost her life, and I don’t think Yellowfang had time to visit the Moonstone. Also, she wouldn’t’ be able to tell the exact number of lives Bluestar had lost, so not a lot going for this one.

Option Three: Bluestar told her
Bluestar knows how many lives she has, so she could tell her medicine cat. We see plenty of other leaders telling deputies and medicine cats how many lives they have, so that seems realistic. But Bluestar was at a very low point at this time, and trusted only Fireheart. She only told him about her lives, and might not trust a new ShadowClan medicine cat. And we still have no idea why Yellowfang would have lied.

Option Four: She didn’t lie.
I find this one intriguing, if not likely. If Yellowfang didn’t lie, why didn’t future medicine cats learn the skill of reading leader’s lives? They lost the skill.
From here on out, we only see the POV of ThunderClan medicine cats, besides Flametail for only a few chapters in NIght Whispers, not long enough to read leader’s lives. None of these ThunderClan medicine cats can do it. The skill must have been lost at one point. Cinderpelt’s point. She wasn’t really meant to be a medicine cat, so she might never have grasped the skill. If she never learned it, she can’t teach it to Leafpool, who can’t teach it to Jayfeather, and so on. The only problem I find is that we don’t see Yellowfang learning the skill in her super edition.

So there you have it! Which one of these do you think is most likely? Do you have any other ideas? Tell me, if so, or I will die from not knowing the answer.
-Jaypaw

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Maplebreeze who is having a WAFFLE PARTY
Maplebreeze who is having a WAFFLE PARTY
May 7, 2017 12:11 pm

….. I never thought this XD

I agree with number two and four 🙂

Fallenshadows
Fallenshadows
May 7, 2017 12:32 pm

Interesting! I never really thought about it before. Nice article! 😀


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Brightstorm (Bright Flash In Storm Cloud)
Brightstorm (Bright Flash In Storm Cloud)
May 7, 2017 1:23 pm

I think all of these options make sense but to me I feel like it would have been #3 because Bluestar and Yellowfang had such a strong connection (both had kits against the warrior/medicine cat code) so she would have told her pretty openly. Plus Bluestar tells Fireheart herself.

Mint and Feathers Scattered Amid Autumn Leaves/Mint in Cranberry Sauce/Mintpaw(feather)
Mint and Feathers Scattered Amid Autumn Leaves/Mint in Cranberry Sauce/Mintpaw(feather)
May 7, 2017 3:35 pm

I think it might have been #2 or #3. This is really interesting!


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Embers of an Autumn Dawn (Emberdawn)
Embers of an Autumn Dawn (Emberdawn)
May 7, 2017 4:19 pm

Honestly, it would super cool if medicine cats did in fact have this power up until Yellowfang in ThunderClan! Maybe it still exists in the other clans, but was lost in ThunderClan 😛


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Mint and Feathers Scattered Amid Autumn Leaves/Mint in Cranberry Sauce/Mintpaw(feather)
Mint and Feathers Scattered Amid Autumn Leaves/Mint in Cranberry Sauce/Mintpaw(feather)
May 7, 2017 4:36 pm

*spoilers for FQ and AVoS*

Maybe it is not in River, Shadow, Wind, or Thunder but is in Sky! Because they were separated for so long? Or maybe it existed in Sky until they were broken apart and didn’t come back when Firestar and Sandstorm brought them together, as Fire and Sand didn’t know,


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🎶 Wavesplash 🎶
🎶 Wavesplash 🎶
May 8, 2017 4:42 am

But as far as we know, Yellowfang isn’t descended from SkyClan, nor does she have any connection with them.

🌈owlfeather-owly🌈
🌈owlfeather-owly🌈
May 7, 2017 6:27 pm

interesting!! i think 3 and 4!!


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Mistpaw (Mistpool)
Mistpaw (Mistpool)
May 7, 2017 9:15 pm

Interesting theory, Jaypaw!


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Breeze that Glides Through Summers
Breeze that Glides Through Summers
May 7, 2017 9:29 pm

Ooh, this is an interesting theory! 😀

Snowyfoot
Snowyfoot
May 7, 2017 9:56 pm

This will be good to know when I right my fan fictions since I is a meddie

Winterrose (also known as Wolfrose)
Winterrose (also known as Wolfrose)
May 8, 2017 10:42 pm

This is really interesting! I never really thought about, accepted it right away, but you’re right, we never see her learn it and we also don’t see anyone else do it!
I think it could very possibly be #1. But #4 and #3 make sense to me. I wouldn’t know about #2, having not read about Jayfeather yet but I really like this article!


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Sky
Sky
May 14, 2017 6:41 pm

In Shattered Skies, Kestrelwing flinched when Onestar admitted that he only had one life left. Twigpaw(or Alderheart, I forgot who’s POV it was) thought that it was because medicine cats could sense lives. This means that warriors know this. Maybe StarClan gives medicine cats their ability when they become one.
I think that all medicine cats can do this. Read the sections featuring full medicine cats a bit closely, and you’ll see implications.

BoB
BoB
July 5, 2017 9:48 pm
Reply to  Sky

I disagree with sky because in the article it says that cinderpelt was maybe the point in which THUNDERCLAN medicine cats lost the ability. That doesn’t mean Windclan lost it so maybe windclan still has the ablility and the part where kestrelwing flinched, it was never said that they thought medicine cats can sense lives(btw it was violetpaws pov)

Rainnyyy (Rainpaw)
Rainnyyy (Rainpaw)
August 8, 2018 6:45 pm
Reply to  Sky

Sweet Gravatar, Sky! 😛

Binge boss
Binge boss
October 24, 2020 7:07 pm

Maybe yellowfang got a dream from star clan every time a leader lost a life in every clan?

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