Why I Think Antpelt Didn’t Deserve The Dark Forest by Leafsong

Leafsong argues why Antpelt didn’t deserve a fate in the Dark Forest.

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Leafsong here! This is my second article here on BlogClan so I’m kind of nervous but here goes! So today I wanted to talk about Antpelt. Did he really deserve the Dark Forest? Was he really that bad of a cat? Or was he just judged just by training in the Dark Forest—which, let me tell you, isn’t very hard to get into. Those dark warriors are tricky! My opinion on all of this: no, he did not deserve the Dark Forest. Here’s why.
Antpelt was a WindClan warrior. He first met young Ivypaw in the beginning of Night Whispers, where Thistleclaw had arranged a training session. A bit later they also trained together when the Clan cats were learning water battle tactics from the Dark Forest cats. He wasn’t ever as ambitious and vengeful as his Clanmate Breezepelt or as bloodthirsty as his mentor, Thistleclaw. And just think of it—he didn’t have to be. According to when Dovewing casts out her senses to the WindClan camp, he dies next to a she-cat who looks grief-stricken—his mate Swallowtail. He had a mate and was a warrior. But anyway, back to the main point.
We don’t really come into close contact with him until Sign of the Moon when Thistleclaw sets up a training session with just Ivypool and Antpelt (pages 63-68). When Thistleclaw twitches his tail for them to begin, Antpelt leaps at Ivypool with his claws sheathed. Thistleclaw yowls at them and says they are fighting like kits. Then Antpelt attacks Ivypool for real. But when Ivypool slips on some fungus, Antpelt waits for her to recover. Thistleclaw attacks Antpelt, calling him a coward. The Dark Forest warrior rakes claws down his back mercilessly and bites his teeth into Antpelt’s neck. Ivypool is horrified and she goes to help, soothing Antpelt by saying he is back in his WindClan nest. Antpelt lets out a whimper, then fades away. If Antpelt truly was a loyal Dark Forest warrior, he would’ve attacked Ivypool viciously, claws unsheathed, and teeth bared.
Later, in Sign of the Moon, Ivypool encounters Antpelt, all healed but with ugly scars lining his back and neck in the Dark Forest. At first Ivypool is confused, thinking Antpelt has healed. Here’s a long quote that also supports my opinion as well. On page 134 it states “He [Antpelt] gave her a puzzled look. ‘This is my home now,’ He meowed. For a heartbeat Ivypool didn’t understand him; then she felt as though she had fallen into an icy stream. ‘You—you died?’ She gasped. Antpelt shrugged. ‘You can see it that way if you want.’ ‘Did you choose to come here?’ Ivypool asked, trying to keep the shock out of her voice. I liked Antpelt! He doesn’t belong with these evil cats! ‘These are my Clanmates, more than WindClan ever was.’ Antpelt told her with a trace of regret in his voice.” In my opinion, his trace of regret means a lot. Again, if he was a truly bad cat, wouldn’t he say something along the lines of taunting the Clans in some way or using his death as an excuse to become more powerful? Also, in the books afterwards there shows no hint of him training any other Dark Forest apprentices. So, he wasn’t that high in the ranks of the Dark Forest.
He’s basically in the background until The Forgotten Warrior, where he is commanding Ivypool and some other apprentices as they climb trees. When Ivypool drops down from her branch and attacks Antpelt she confronts him. She tells him why he seems to have forgotten how she saved him formed Thistleclaw. Antpelt replies (on page 72), “‘Who cares about the past? This is my Clan now!’ Antpelt hissed, slashing his claws toward her throat.” Wow, that was harsh and evil for a cat who started out good!
My theory is that perhaps the Dark Forest makes cats somehow worst than when they were alive. I mean, think about it. Number one, you’re surrounded by cats who are evil and bloodthirsty. That alone might get to your head. Second, I do have a feeling that the Dark Forest somehow does something to turn the cats who go there just…evil. For example, Thistleclaw. If you’ve read Spottedleaf’s Heart and Bluestar’s Prophecy he does have a very loyal side when it comes to protecting his Clan. And yes, he was bloodthirsty! But somehow in the Dark Forest, he seems worst. Mapleshade as well. She’s so full of anguish and it does state in Warriors: The Ultimate Guide that she wants revenge on the Clans (RiverClan and ThunderClan particularly), but in the Dark Forest she just seems insane. I guess it makes sense for someone to go through so much pain that it gets to their head, but I just feel like all the Dark Forest warriors are a bit rougher than they were in real life. And then there are those cats who I don’t see why they’re in the Dark Forest! Like, come on! What did Brightflower and Lilywhisker ever do? I mean, honestly, Lilywhisker was a normal elder, she was apparently bitter at her injury and she felt like she couldn’t serve her Clan well…but then…Briarlight would be bad? Didn’t she feel bitter about being “useless”? And Brightflower was tricked by Brokenstar! Antpelt was probably tricked by the Dark Forest…perhaps he doesn’t belong there either!
And that’s why I feel like Antpelt’s misunderstood. I feel like he really shouldn’t belong in the Dark Forest. Maybe the Erins should make something about him. So, we could understand his backstory a bit more, and know his true feelings? I think he’s actually a pretty complicated character, but we haven’t really got that much information and backstory on him. Anyway, that’s all for today! Thanks for reading and please comment below on what you think! May StarClan light your path! ~Leafsong

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Sky
Sky
October 30, 2018 2:04 am

I do agree with your theory – those in the DF turn out worse, those thrown into StarClan turn out better. There are lots of examples of this.

I agree that Antpelt TECHNICALLY shouldn’t have been in the DF, but I feel like him being in the DF was a big point for the DF trainees. It also showed us more “afterlife rules” in Warriors.

The other trainees realized that if they died in the DF, they’d be stuck in the marshy, dark, dirty forest forever. It was sorta turning point for them. That’s important.

Also, on afterlife rules in Warriors, it’s always interesting to find more. We learned an “afterlife rule” when Antpelt died. Those who die in the Dark Forest end up there.

But good article! 🙂

Flameclaw/paw
Flameclaw/paw
October 30, 2018 11:13 am
Reply to  Sky

This is really noice

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:22 am
Reply to  Sky

I actually do see that. And I agree. His death was a key factor for the series…but I just don’t think he deserved it. Thanks for saying your opinion!


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Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:37 am

Well hello there speedy mod 😉


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Falconbreeze
Falconbreeze
November 4, 2018 3:53 am
Reply to  Sky

But Beetlewhisker died in the Dark Forest and went to StarClan (well, until the error in AVoS happened and he’s alive again now). Doesn’t that mean that Antpelt technically could’ve gone to StarClan if he was good?

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
November 11, 2018 7:32 pm
Reply to  Falconbreeze

Uhhh I don’t think he did?? That’s the sad thing: cats who die there stay there…even if they don’t deserve it.


❃ Leaf

springhare
springhare
June 27, 2020 12:26 pm
Reply to  Sky

I agree that Antpelt should not be in the DF. But he is already in the DF, so I can’t do anything.

🌈owlfeather-owly🌈
🌈owlfeather-owly🌈
October 30, 2018 3:16 am

Nice article! 😀 I completely agree with everything.


thats not very plus ultra of u

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:22 am

Thank you! 🙂


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Aster is Meowing for Chinese New Year!!! (Asterstorm/ Meowing Aster/ Astie)
Aster is Meowing for Chinese New Year!!! (Asterstorm/ Meowing Aster/ Astie)
October 30, 2018 9:06 am

Nice article 😆! Antpelt and some other cats don’t deserve the Dark Forest. Antpelt was a kind warrior, he went to train in the DF just because he wanted to serve his clan better. I agree that there’re some power or magic in the DF which turns cat evil than they originally was. It may come from the already-evil cats there, or the dull atmosphere. The DF isn’t an effective way to punish cats at all– it just makes them worse 😿.


!!Running for senior warrior!!

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:21 am

I know, I just feel so bad for all the cats who went there – but especially the ones that didn’t deserve it 🙁


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Maplefur*Mudwing*Stonewhisker
Maplefur*Mudwing*Stonewhisker
June 22, 2019 8:07 am

It’s not an effective punishment AT ALL. It makes them insane, and they can still recruit cats, so basically they can do whatever they want, like attack the clans, because StarClan can’t supervise them

Snowypaw (Snowystorm)
Snowypaw (Snowystorm)
October 30, 2018 9:55 am

I think it was to say if you die in the dark forest you can’t et to starclan as in they wont let you leave

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:23 am

Yeah…I know. And that’s also what makes it sad 🙁 Cats are trapped there…and sometimes it’s not even their fault or they don’t deserve it.


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Bluevelociraptor
Bluevelociraptor
October 30, 2018 8:42 pm

I agree 😛


Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
October 31, 2018 12:20 am

Yay! Alright thanks 🙂 I thought I was going to get a lot of debating for my opinion tbh XD


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Foxtail (Foxie)
Foxtail (Foxie)
October 31, 2018 2:53 am

I like Antpelt tbh 😛 And I agree with this article! I ship him with Ivypool haha (I haven’t read AVoS so idk about FernxIvy yet).


LØVƎSIƆK BLIИK (runnin’ 4 SW)

Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
Leafsong (Gold Leaves That Adorn New Years Cheer)
November 11, 2018 7:32 pm

Yeah!!! Me too XD And thanks 🙂


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Nightblaze
Nightblaze
April 29, 2020 2:06 am

Yo I love Ivyant!


Nightblaze-fierce cat!!!

Maplefur*Mudwing*Stonewhisker
Maplefur*Mudwing*Stonewhisker
June 22, 2019 8:04 am

I agree with everything in this article. (BTW I JUST read the quote like just now, lol.) Antpelt really doesn’t belong in The Dark Forest. He never actually do anything wrong until he was in it. Cats don’t say, “I want to sleep and then fight cats and starve forever!” He was brought to the Dark Forest beyond his control.

Marblepaw/ Marbleshadow
Marblepaw/ Marbleshadow
March 24, 2020 9:32 pm

I never really thought Antpelt deserved the Dark Forest either. And he never should have died either! He was a really good, kind WindClan warrior. It’s harsh that he should attack Ivypool, though. 🙁

The Masked Tterror (Shatteredmask)
The Masked Tterror (Shatteredmask)
March 26, 2020 2:15 pm

I agree, but he actually chose to be in the Dark Forest


armed with a newspaper

irinasplash
irinasplash
August 20, 2020 11:46 am

if mapleshade got to dark forest, ashfur should!!!!

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