Theory: Lilywhisker killed Badgerfang by Mellowix

Mellowix shares a theory about Lilywhisker and Badgerfang.

Art by Tallstar’s Rewrite (tumblr)

For those who don’t know, awhile ago, a friend of Vicky Homes, called Su Susann was allowed to answer fan questions. Amoung those answers were new Dark Forest residences like: Brightflower, Tangleburr, Blizzardwing etc. One of those being Lilywhisker, a former Tunneler and elder in Tallstar’s revenge. She was forced to retire early due to a cave-in, which crippled her leg and killed another tunneler called Leafshine. We don’t get to see much of Lilywhisker, seemly just your typical elders. Since so much of her life and character is uncounted for, it’s impossable to say the reasons why Su thought she may deserve the Dark Forest.

Su claims that Lilywhisker went to the Dark Forest because ‘she couldn’t accept her fate after her hind leg was broken’.
However, I like to think this isn’t actually the reason but simply the motivation, on what later caused her to do the horrible things that sent her to the Dark Forest.

And there’s even some evidence supporting it. Here’s the opening of Badgerfang’s story in the “Code of the Clans” and only appearance of his killer: “The Windclan warrior sprang with his claws unsheathed, and the little black-and-white cat fell to the ground without making a sound. A trickle of blood crept from his ear, which was crumpled in the dust. Flintfang shook off the warrior trying to sink her teeth into his tail and bounded over to his unmoving Clanmate.”

What we know about Badgerfang’s killer:
It’s a she-cat.
It’s a Windclan cat.

It’s also very likely this cat is also in the Dark Forest. It’s shown that simply training in the Dark Forest (Redwillow and Antpelt) or being loyal to the wrong cat (Tangleburr and Stumpytail), is enough to get you into the Dark Forest. So killing a kit would be more than enough to land you in the Dark Forest. Out of the three Windclan Dark Forests cats, we know of; Houndleap, Lilywhisker and Antpelt, it had to be Lilywhisker who killed Badgerfang. As she’s the only she-cat and lived in the right time frame to be alive when Shadowclan drove out Windclan.

Antpelt wasn’t even born yet and Houndleap was already in the Dark Forest when Spottledleaf was an apprentice, meaning Badgerfang wouldn’t of even born yet.

Possible counter-arguments:

“She would have of been too old by that point to be alive.”. – At this point in time, Tallstar was still alive, with still serval years left in him (Not dying until Starlight). And when Lilywhisker was around the age of a young warrior (retired very early), Tallstar was a kit. So it’s not too much of a stretch to think Lilywhisker could an alive at this point. Probably being around the age of a senior warrior or actual proper to age to become an Elder.

“It’s said a warrior killed Badgerfang, not an elder.”. – Remember the story told from the point of view of 3/4 moon old kit. So it won’t be surprising that Bangerfang mistook most grown-up cats for warriors. And if Lilywhisker was fighting, that gives him, even more, of a reason to think she was a warrior. Also, remember what I said earlier, Lilywhisker very retired early, so she might have still been the age where she could be a warrior if her leg was never injured.

“It was during a battle, so it wouldn’t of been enough for her to be sent to the Dark Forest.” – I’d like to point to Clawface, he was sent to the Dark Forest for killing a Medicine cat from another Clan during a battle. And I’d say killing another clan’s kit during an attack can do the same thing. And I’d say it’s a lot worse. Badgerfang was clearly too young to be fighting and didn’t pose any threat, the warrior could have simply knocked him away with a single paw. But despite that, the warrior still lunged at him with unsheltered claws and continued to attack him after Badgerfang had been knocked to the floor. Acting way too ruthlessly. Murdering him was completely unnecessary. It beyond the excuse of ‘self-defense’.

“She didn’t know he was kit” – Anyone could have easily seen he was a kit. For example, during the battle when Moonflower died, Bluepaw and Snowpaw had been made apprentices slightly early, probably about 5.5 moons and Hawkheart was instantly able to tell she was a kit. For another example, during Brokenstar’s exile, Firepaw was attacked by Littlekit/paw, he was also able to instantly see he was a kit, sheltering his claws and knocking him away, saying ‘this is not your fight’. So if: Bluepaw was able to recognize as a kit at 5.5 moons and Firepaw could identify a kit, despite being one himself not too long ago, then Badgerfang as 3 moons olds could easily be recognized as a kit.

Even his official description of “very tiny, fluffy black-and-white tom. His face is striped like a badger’s.”, just screams with the topical kits traits of being tiny and having fluffy fur.

“Elders don’t fight.” – If you look back at the battles during the series, especially in the first arc, they’ll see elders do indeed fight. For example, Rosetail was killed by Blackfoot while defending the Nusary. While it’s not recommended/their duty anymore, elders can still fight if they want to. Usually doing this when cats directly attack their camp.

“Her crippled leg means she couldn’t fight” – An injured leg isn’t the end to be all. In Lilywhisker’s very own time, Deadfoot was able to fight and even become deputy despite having a twisted front paw. Cinderpelt was also able to brawl with badgers, despite having barely any warrior training at all. So Lilywhisker would of definitely been able to fight to some degree, especially against a kit, who are easily killed and not much of a threat.

Motive:

Some of you might say that Lilywhisker wouldn’t have the motive/guts to do something so horrible. However, I would remind you, the last time we saw her, was all the way back in Tallstar’s revenge. Which was a long time ago and a lot can happen in that amount of time. Her broken leg may not be the reason she went to the Dark Forest, but it was a cause of a chain of events that lead her down that path.

Just remember what she had to go through; being forced into the Elder’s den too early, having no duties, having apprentices give you prey, clear out your bedding and check your pelt for ticks as if you were helpless. Just made worse as Deadfoot, a cat with a similar condition is allowed to become a warrior while she can’t. Then the tunnelers tradition, something her whole life was built around, was ended forever. The thing that gave her so much pride. This quote from Tallstar’s revenge, “I used to be able to hear a cavern halfway across the moor, just by the echo of my paw steps.”, proves she struggles to let go of the past and is quite prideful.

Possible Story:

So after years of this, she becomes more and more bitter, desperately wanting to be useful to her clan. Then the perfect moment arrives, when Shadowclan attacks. This isn’t like most fights. Shadowclan isn’t satisfied with just scaring Windclan, they’re trying to chase them off for good. Lilywhisker can allow herself to do nothing, so throws herself into battle. The rage that had been building inside her for years is suddenly freed. Nothing would ruin her moment of glory. She becomes bloodthirstily in her battle rage and ends up going too far, killing an innocent kit (Possibly others). Sadly, Lilywhisker is never able to redeem herself in time before she dies, sending her to the Dark Forest.

  18 Replies to “Theory: Lilywhisker killed Badgerfang by Mellowix”

  1. January 31, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    I’m not really sure about this, but great theory 😺!


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  2. Sky
    January 31, 2019 at 3:31 pm

    I disagree, but cool theory… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I honestly just don’t feel like the cat that killed Badgerfang meant to kill him. Remember that warriors should be able to sustain more injuries than a kit, so if the cat thought that Badgerfang was a warrior/apprentice then they probably gave wounds that would harm but not kill a warrior/apprentice, but could kill a kit?


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    • mellowix
      January 31, 2019 at 8:29 pm

      It’s not an excuse for Badgerfang’s killer that they didn’t “realise he was a kit” or “just wanted to wound him”. Any grown cat would be fully aware attacking a 3 moon kit with unsheltered claws would very easily kill them. Even it’s not the killer intention to kill, they’re still aware their attack is very likely to kill Badgerfang, so should still be held fully responsible. Kits are very fragile. Mosspaw, another underaged apprentice, was still just because two others kit did a training slightly wrong.

      “She didn’t know he was kit” – Anyone could have easily seen he was a kit. For example, during the battle when Moonflower died, Bluepaw and Snowpaw had been made apprentices slightly early, probably about 5.5 moons and Hawkheart was instantly able to tell she was a kit. For another example, during Brokenstar’s exile, Firepaw was attacked by Littlekit/paw, he was also able to instantly see he was a kit, sheltering his claws and knocking him away, saying ‘this is not your fight’. So if: Bluepaw was able to recognize as a kit at 5.5 moons and Firepaw could identify a kit, despite being one himself not too long ago, then Badgerfang as 3 moons olds could easily be recognized as a kit.

      Even his official description of “very tiny, fluffy black-and-white tom. His face is striped like a badger’s.”, just screams with the topical kits traits of being tiny and having fluffy fur.


      - Mellowix

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      • Beeheart(Jaydapple)
        February 15, 2019 at 12:05 am

        I agree, Mellowix. I think, as much as I liked Lilywhisker in TR, I think she COULD HAVE been Badgerfang’s killer.
        I do, though, still LOVE Lilywhisker in TR

  3. January 31, 2019 at 5:37 pm

    I agree! But why was Blizzardwing in the DF; I remember him being nice to his mate Featherstorm!


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    • Viperfrost
      February 1, 2019 at 5:57 am

      Idk. I agree that he was shown to be really nice to Featherstorm. Actually, hold on. Remember how everyone in Yellowfang’s Secret was always chattering about how Raggedkit and Scorchkit were likely the sons of a kittypet? They turned out to be, yeah, but it’s still rude to gossip like that. Maybe he got angry on his mate’s behalf and made some questionable decisions that landed him in the Dark Forest. Yeah, now I really want a novella from Blizzardwing. 😛

    • mellowix
      February 1, 2019 at 12:10 pm

      Even if Blizzardwing was kind to his mate, doesn’t mean he’s is to those outside his kin. He’s always been shown as needlessly aggressive towards Windclan in Tallstar’s revenge, even as an apprentice. When Shadowclan attacked, Blizzardwing was shown to aim a killing bite at Talltail and taunted him when he couldn’t save his mentor, Dawnstripe.


      - Mellowix

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  4. Fallenshadows (Fallen)
    January 31, 2019 at 7:13 pm

    This is very interesting! I think this is definitely a possibility as to why she was sent to the Dark Forest. Nice article! 🙂


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  5. Moondapple
    January 31, 2019 at 9:40 pm

    hmm.. I don’t remember these two cats . I don’t think that the cat that killed Badgerfang really matters. Good article!


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  6. Melt My Foxie Heart <3
    January 31, 2019 at 10:33 pm

    Very interesting article! It was very well organized and you defended your points well. Nice job!


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    • February 1, 2019 at 3:25 am

      Agreed 🙂 It’s an interesting theory – not completely sure if I agree… but I never thought about that! It’s relatively possible, in my mind.


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  7. Potato
    January 31, 2019 at 11:25 pm

    Great article!
    I disagree, as I believe that Lilywhisker was a rather happy cat. I don’t think Su was correct in saying she’s in the Dark Forest.

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  8. Sunpaw
    February 1, 2019 at 1:04 am

    Lilywhisker was an elder. She couldn’t have been in the battle. Plus, her crippled leg would’ve hindered her.

    Also, just want to point out, Su Susann isn’t an “official” Erin, none of the things she really says is actually canon(that doesn’t mean that Su deserved to deactivate her Facebook account).

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    • February 1, 2019 at 3:28 am

      Melloix addressed that – elders have fought in battles before. Plus, Lilywhisker was not actually that old. Cinderpelt had a crippled leg and fought a badger – sure, she lost, but a badger is much harder to fight. Deadfoot was lame as well, and couldn’t use on of his legs. He became deputy. Both of these things Mellowix explained in further detail.

      We know – but a lot of people take it as canon, so um… yeah? 😛 I don’t personally think what she says is canon, either, but a lot of people do.

      Sorry if this sounded rude, but I’m just trying to point out something you may have not realized.


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    • mellowix
      February 1, 2019 at 9:39 am

      May I ask for you to reread the “counter arguments”, I covered why it’s completely possible for her to fight. Badgerfang was only a kit, so even the weakest grown cat could of probably killed him.

      Injured cats tnat can fight: Cinderpelt (Against Badgers), Deadfoot, Brightheart, Jayfeather (Briefly against Breezepelt), Crookedstar, etc.

      Elders who been seen fighting: Rosetail, Smallear, Mousetail, Longtail, etc.


      - Mellowix

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  9. 💜🖤💜Lunar candy hearts💜🖤💜
    February 1, 2019 at 5:02 am

    Another theory for Lilywhisker being sent to the dark forest is that while injuring her leg she purposely killed leafshine.


    *insert something sarcastic*

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  10. February 1, 2019 at 11:55 pm

    Okay, why are Brightflower & Blizzardwing in the DF? They were nice characters!!!

  11. Lilacpaw/frost - Li
    February 17, 2019 at 10:23 pm

    Great theory, but I don’t think that it is true because the main character (Flintfang, I think) would probably have noticed something about her leg or her age.


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