Hated Cats Associated with Mapleshade: Guilty or Innocent? by Brightpaw

Brightpaw takes a look at some of the characters connected to Mapleshade.

Official illustration by Wayne McLoughlin

Hello there! Today I will be discussing whether commonly hated cats associated with Mapleshade are innocent or not, and also if Mapleshade deserves StarClan or the Dark Forest. (I know there’s like 185 articles on this, but whatever). Without further adieu, let’s start off with the notorious Appledusk.


Why he was murdered: Appledusk betrayed her by sending her away in her time of biggest need, abandoning her for of his Clan and a different she-cat, and blaming her for the death of their kits.
Discussion: Let’s observe from Appledusk’s point of view. In RiverClan, Appledusk has a mate carrying his unborn kits, the Clan he’s lived in and been loyal to his entire life, a young apprentice, shelter, water, and plentiful prey. If he favored Mapleshade over all that, he would most likely be exiled and face uncertainty and a large possibility of being killed in unknown territory. Which would you choose? Plus, it wasn’t Appledusk’s fault that he and Mapleshade’s kits drowned; it was Mapleshade who decided to try to cross a clearly unsafe river with three young kits, instead of waiting out the storm. It is shown that Appledusk tried to save the kits and really did love both of his families. Even at the end, when Mapleshade kills him, he says that he doesn’t want to fight Mapleshade, and tells her to leave before he called a patrol. After all that had happened he still valued Mapleshade’s safety.
Conclusion: Appledusk was innocent.


Why she was murdered: Frecklewish was there when the kits and Mapleshade tried to cross into RiverClan’s territory. She sat by and did nothing when the kits were clearly in great danger.
Discussion: When Mapleshade tries to kill Frecklewish, Frecklewish defends herself, saying that she thought the RiverClan patrol was going to save the kits and it was all under control. There was no way she could have known the kits would die. Frecklewish also gets a lot of hate because Frecklewish assumed the kits were Birchface’s, without Mapleshade saying so, and then got angry once the Clan discovered they were Appledusk’s and Mapleshade ‘lied’. First of all, maybe Mapleshade didn’t outright say they were Birchface’s, but she played along, which might as well be lying. Second, think about it. You have just discovered that your brother’s kits will be born into the Clan, and you are ecstatic that his legacy will continue on. Then you find out that the father of the kits is actually the one who, as far as you know, killed your brother. What made it worse was that it was your best friend who was lying to you the entire time. I don’t blame Frecklewish for being angry.
Conclusion: Frecklewish is innocent.


Why fans hate him: He exiled Mapleshade and her three young kits in the midst of a terrible storm.
Discussion: Before Mapleshade’s vengeance, I assume Oakstar’s mate was killed, which meant that Birchface and Frecklewish were the only family he had left. Birchface died in the most recent battle for Sunningrocks, leaving only Frecklewish (and Oakstar was probably still grieving for his mate when this happened, making it worse). He must have been overjoyed to learn that his family would carry on through Mapleshade, only to find out that his grandchildren’s father was actually the cat that killed his son. It was foolish to exile the kits as well as the mother, but if Mapleshade’s actions are justified with ‘she was blinded by grief’, why can’t Oakstar’s?
Conclusion: Oakstar was innocent.


Why he was murdered: After receiving a prophecy concerning Mapleshade and watching her interact with Appledusk, Ravenwing ignored Mapleshade’s pleas to keep the secret and told Oakstar what he had seen, thus leading to the exile of Mapleshade and her kits.
Discussion: It is the duty of a medicine cat to share their visions and prevent danger within the Clan. And Mapleshade was dangerous. The traumatizing events of her life triggered the ability to murder that was already within her. So Ravenwing was just trying to protect not only his Clan but all the Clans, like he swore to do when he became a medicine cat. It was right not to lie to his Clanmates, and they did deserve the truth. I also sympathize with Ravenwing because he was an inexperienced medicine cat, trying to figure out how to get on without his mentor to guide him. However, there is one quote from Ravenwing that disturbs me: “I’m sorry, Mapleshade. Sorry for you, but even sorrier for these kits. They will end up suffering for the lies that you have told.” –Chapter 3 of Mapleshade’s Vengeance. This shows that Ravenwing knew Mapleshade’s kits would suffer and did nothing but be sorry for them. He didn’t attempt to make Oakstar see reason and keep the kits but exile Mapleshade, or at least wait until the storm was over. To me this is evil. Even if StarClan told me to I wouldn’t exile three innocent young kits, knowing that they will suffer.
Conclusion: I would say that Ravenwing is neither guilty nor innocent. He was right to tell the truth, and didn’t deserve to be killed, but he knew that the kits would suffer and didn’t give two mouse tails.

Now, I will be discussing Mapleshade herself: did she deserve StarClan or the Dark Forest? I would say the Dark Forest, because murder can’t ever be justified. Sure, she was hallucinating, but that doesn’t mean it was okay for her to kill. Think of it from a human perspective: you’ve just learned that there was someone who went crazy and started killing innocent people. I sure wouldn’t side with the murderer. And was Mapleshade ever really a good cat? As I said before, the traumatizing events of Mapleshade’s life triggered the ability to murder that was already within her. If she truly wasn’t evil I don’t think she would go on a murderous rampage.

That’s all for today! Kudos to you if you read this long, boring article all the way to the end 😛 I would love to hear whether y’all agreed or not, and I welcome debates. This is Brightpaw, signing off for today 🙂

  27 Replies to “Hated Cats Associated with Mapleshade: Guilty or Innocent? by Brightpaw”

  1. Sunpaw
    February 2, 2019 at 1:10 am


  2. Wishi Wishes For Someone(Wishpaw)
    February 2, 2019 at 6:28 am

    I disagree on the innocence of Appledusk, Oakstar and Frecklewish. For Frecklewish, she had broken the warrior code by not helping Mapleshade’s kits. The code specifically says: ‘No warrior may neglect a kit in pain or danger.’ So Dark Forest for her, because she essentially watched someone’s babies drown and did absolutely nothing about it. As for Appledusk, I can forgive the Mapleshade thing. He had a new life now. But, in the midst of battle, he murdered someone(Birchface) and then called their apprentice(Flowerpaw) stupid for trying to save them. Try and justify that. And for Oakstar? To sum up: if he had let Mapleshade stay, then none of this would have happened. Mapleshade’s kits wouldn’t have died, and Mapleshade wouldn’t have murdered her victims. His fury caused the death of so many. Also, banishing 3-month-old children for the crimes of the parent is not exactly best-guy-ever material.
    I DO agree on Mapleshade and Ravenwing though. Murder isn’t justifiable. Mapleshade’s actions were definitely Dark Forest worthy. Heartbreak is no reason to kill people. And for Ravenwing, he was simply doing his duty as a member of the clan. Hollyleaf spilled the beans to HUNDREDS of cats about a half-clan relationship, and yet she’s one of the most loved characters! Ravenwing shouldn’t be blamed for what OAKSTAR did with the knowledge he had.

    So, all-in-all, everyone deserves to go to the Dark Forest but Ravenwing.


    • Brightpaw (pool)
      February 2, 2019 at 3:23 pm

      For Frecklewish, as I stated before, she didn’t actually watch the kits drown, and must have saw the RiverClan patrol coming across the river to get the kits. She thought that is was under control .
      “I thought your kits would be saved,” she [Frecklewish] rasped. “I never meant for them to die.” -pg. 73 of Mapleshade’s Vengeance. And sure, Mapleshade didn’t believe her. I do, however. Who are you going to believe, a murderer or a sane, good-hearted cat? And I say good-hearted because even after everything, Frecklewish gives Mapleshade a second chance:
      “Mapleshade! You shouldn’t be here!” she [Frecklewish] arched her back. “Leave or I’ll call the rest of the patrol.” -pg. 72 of Mapleshade’s Vengeance. Frecklewish essentially tells Mapleshade to leave for her own safety.
      For Appledusk, I don’t think he murdered Birchface. First of all, Appledusk and Birchface were in a high area close to the river, where she shouldn’t have been in in the first place. And, they were both following orders: they are warriors and they fight. Plus, it was an accident:
      ‘ Mapleshade stumbled as a memory seared through her brain: Appledusk, a light brown RiverClan warrior with piercing green eyes, *striking Birchface so hard that the ThunderClan cat lost his footing and slipped from the very top of Sunningrocks. * -pg. 10 of Mapleshade’s Vengeance. Technically, it was Birchface’s own fault because he slipped.
      ‘ She [Mapleshade] felt Appledusk stiffen beneath his pelt. “It was an accident,” he growled. “I never meant for him to fall in the river.” ‘ -pg. 12 of Mapleshade’s Vengeance.
      Also, about Flowerpaw, it was a little harsh for Appledusk to say she was stupid. At the same time, though, Flowerpaw should have looked ahead and seen what would happen to both her and her mentor if she went in after him, because there would be no sense in losing both Flowerpaw and Birchface.
      As for Oakstar, I see your point, and I actually agree with you about that. Good argument.

      • mellowix
        February 2, 2019 at 6:25 pm

        Added onto this, Appledusk *never* called Flowerpaw “Stupid”. He called the whole battles over Sunningrocks, “Mousebrained”:“But Sunningrocks has always made our Clans a little mouse-brained.” – Chapter 1.

        - Mellowix

    • Sky
      February 2, 2019 at 3:28 pm

      I agree about everything except for your part about Mapleshade. She was hallucinating and wasn’t in total control of herself. As a Mapleshade fan, I never say that she was blinded by grief. I say that her grief messed with her mind and led her to murdering. Her actions aren’t 100% justifiable, but she deserves to go to StarClan because she wasn’t in control of herself.

      2019, here I come!

    • Sunpaw
      February 2, 2019 at 5:52 pm

      You know you guys don’t have to write a college paper just to prove your point, right?

    • February 2, 2019 at 6:24 pm

      Frecklewish is a ThunderClan cat, hence she cannot swim. Getting involved would’ve worsened the situation as she would’ve needed herself getting saved by the patrol already dealing with the circumstances, which would’ve wasted their time lessened the chance that the kits would be saved. It would be no different from rushing into a burning building while there’s already firemen doing their job.
      Also, Birchdace’s and Flowerpaw’s deaths was an accident in battle.
      ‘Mapleshade stumbled as a memory seared through her brain; Appledusk, a light brown RiverClan warrior with piercing green eyes, striking Birchface so hard that the ThunderClan cat lost his footing and slipped from the very top of Sunningrocks.’ – Mapleshade flashbacking to Birchdace’s death.
      Birchface lost his balance, and fell. It visibly wasn’t murder.
      I’d also like to point out that Appledusk never once called Flowerpaw stupid- I’m not entirely sure where you got that from. However, he calls the battle as whole ‘mouse-brained’:
      “But Sunningrocks has always made our Clans a little mouse-brained.” He licked the top of Mapleshade’s head. “Thank StarClan you didn’t get hurt in the battle.” – Chapter 1.
      So, him calling Flowerpaw ‘stupid’ seems pretty justified to me considering that didn’t even happen.

      mr poop man!!!

      • Wishi Wishes For Someone(Wishpaw)
        February 2, 2019 at 8:19 pm

        Fireheart saved Bramblekit, and none of the clans know how to swim through fire.


        • February 2, 2019 at 9:27 pm


          mr poop man!!!

        • mellowix
          February 2, 2019 at 10:30 pm

          But all Clans cats have an equal chance of saving a kit from a fire. Since there’s no “Fireclan” that encounter fires enough, they have special training to deal with it.

          There is however, a Riverclan that specializes in Rivers. So it makes sense that Frecklewish leaves it to the experts to save Mapleshade’s kits, without making the situation worse.

          - Mellowix

          • mellowix
            February 2, 2019 at 10:51 pm

            Also as an extra note, even in that scene, only Yellowfang and Fireheart go back to burning camp to save lagers, while the rest of Thunderclan go to Sunningrocks. There’s a reason only 2 cats go back out of a possible 20+. It’s because if too many cats unnecessarily risk their lives to save others, it blows the whole situation out of proportion. Possibly leading to more lives being lost, then if no one helped in the first place.

            Same logic goes for Frecklewish. There’s already a whole Patrol of Riverclan cats present.

            - Mellowix

  3. Flamepaw*fire crackles*
    February 2, 2019 at 2:11 pm


    *What do I put here*

  4. Wolf howling at dawn for a date (Wolfie)
    February 2, 2019 at 5:51 pm

    Great article Brightpaw! I agree with your points.


  5. mellowix
    February 2, 2019 at 8:38 pm

    About Ravenwing, the term “Suffering” is an extremely board term that could literally mean anything. Anywhere from the death sentence to the emotional suffering. And considering Ravenwing shown to be a sympathetic character when he says he feels sorry for Mapleshade’s family and thanked Mapleshade for bringing new meaning into Frecklewish’s life. It’s much more likely he was referring to emotional suffering, as they would. Since they’d discover their mother lied to them about their father and he was a “Riverclan murderer” (Accidental, but Thunderclan refuses to believe that).

    Since the kits are protected by the Warrior Code, Ravenwing shouldn’t need to worry about them. It’s unlikely that Oakstar would conveniently be a Leader willing to Break the code just to illegally give kits an official sentence/punishment.

    Ravenwing’s duty as a Medicine cat, is to be a mere messager of Starclan, but nothing else. Once he reported his omen, there’ nothing more then Ravenwing can do, since this is now a matter on Clan politics on traitors and warring Clans. Ravenwing doesn’t have the authority, qualifications or experience to make a greater choice than the Leader. It’s not a Medicine cat’s place to object against the Leader in Clan meeting. Only if Oakstar specially asks Ravenwing to advise him, he shouldn’t speak.

    Ravenwing only speaks once during the whole Trial of Mapleshade and that wasn’t voicing any options. It was the only Ravenwing getting Mapleshade to speak the truth revealed to him by the omen, when she tried lying. Really, cast your mind back, and ask how many times do Medicine cats speak at a Clan meeting without permission?

    - Mellowix

  6. February 2, 2019 at 10:41 pm

    I don’t agree with this. Yes, Frecklewish was innocent but the others deserved to be murdered cause they were cruel

    • mellowix
      February 2, 2019 at 10:57 pm

      No one ever “deserves to be murdered” unless the most extreme scenarios like active mass murderers and even that’s pushing it. Which none of the characters apart from Mapleshade were. Even Oakstar only deserves to be punished by either losing rank or exile, not cold-blooded murder. What Mapleshade did was cold-blooded murder, not an official execution through death sentence. None of her victims committed any crimes and she’s a massive hypocrite, just as reasonable for the kits deaths.

      Ravenwing and Appledusk weren’t cruel in the slightest. Ravenwing, was doing nothing out of the norm for a Medicine cat. He got an omen, he reported it, just like it says in his code and duty.

      Appledusk rightfully rejected Mapleshade, after she crossed a clearly dangerous flood: Killing all their kits, almost her and risked the lives of a whole Riverclan patrol to save them.

      - Mellowix

  7. February 2, 2019 at 10:49 pm

    I agree, Appledusk, Frecklewish, Oakstar, and Ravenwing are innocent.

    Daffiolet tho

  8. February 3, 2019 at 11:59 pm

    Mapleshade only wanted to be a loyal ThunderClan cat with a mate and loving kits. Why was Mapleshade punish so hardly? Leafpool mated with Crowfeather and barley got punished along with some other ones. Give her so credit! Although swimming into the river at a dangerous rate is mouse-brained and your kits would obviously get killed. If she had waited like she should have, Appledusk wouldn’t have to be mad at her that much because it was stated that he loved the kits.

    • Melt My Foxie Heart <3
      February 4, 2019 at 8:42 am

      Because StarClan loves Leafpool and they treat her like an angel because she bore the Three (two of the Three at least) so apparently that gives her an “excuse” to not be punished *rolls eyes* And Leafpool had family in ThunderClan whereas Mapleshade seemed to not have anyone to back her up so yeah.

      Finally running 4 SW (I’m old)

      • Cloversplash
        May 11, 2020 at 6:25 pm

        Leafpool didn’t get thrown out because the kits were the leader’s grandchildren :c

    • Brightpaw (pool)
      February 6, 2019 at 3:41 am

      Well, Oakstar was a completely different leader than Firestar, and Mapleshade and Leafpool were in two completely different time periods, so I don’t think that comparing Mapleshade’s punishment to Leafpool’s would be that valid of an argument (no offense).

  9. Potato
    February 6, 2019 at 10:14 pm

    I agree with a lot of your points! Great article!
    But to me, Oakstar will never be innocent. You don’t throw BABIES out into a raging storm (hehe) and expect it to go well. A leader is expected to yes, put your clan above everything, but also follow the Warrior Code. Which explicitly states that you must always help kits, no matter the clan.

  10. Moonshadow
    February 9, 2019 at 3:09 pm

    Very good. Nice points and well written.
    But Oakstar is not innocent at all. You don’t just throw a queen into a storm with kits and make her leave, no matter what Clan cat she had kits with.

  11. Moondapple
    February 14, 2019 at 9:34 pm

    PREACH! I hate Mapleshade so pls dont kill me..

    dingus bloodclan cat

  12. Lilacpaw/frost - Li
    February 17, 2019 at 10:15 pm

    I think that they’re all innocent… even though they made some dumb decisions.

    Live. Laugh. Love. Blog.

  13. Bird Songz
    February 19, 2019 at 3:00 am

    bless this article

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