Breezepelt and Heathertail probably ain’t heathy by Mellowix

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Mellowix shares their opinion on Breezepelt’s and Heathertail’s relationship.

I think it’s impossible for Breezepelt to ever be a stable mate or father. As an apprentice, Breezepaw was disrespectful and insulted everyone around him, including his Clanmates. He’s controlling of the other apprentices, including Heatherpaw and she has to serve as his apologist:

Breezepaw’s controlling nature:
“Though you couldn’t tell it from his manner. He’s been trying to boss the other apprentices from the moment he went from a ’kit to a ’paw.”

(Specially Heatherpaw’s personal experience) “Breezepaw thinks that I have to do what he says because his father, Crowfeather, is my mentor.”

“It’s hard to believe, but Breezepaw can be great fun on a good day.” (Take note of “good day”, this implies him being “fun” is rare and he’s difficult a majority of time.) – The Sight

At the Gathering, he rudely questions Heatherpaw’s choose in peers and pressures her away:

“You’re not going to waste your time chatting to these two, are you?” The black-pelted WindClan apprentice sat down beside Heatherpaw. “Ivypaw and Owlpaw have just challenged Berrypaw to a competition to see who can jump the highest.” He licked a forepaw and drew it over his ear. “Why don’t you go and watch it, then?” Heatherpaw replied. “Why don’t you come with me?” A challenging glint sparked in Breezepaw’s eye.” – The Dark River

Heatherpaw feels the need to apology for someone else she knows is in the wrong:

“Please don’t be angry,” Heatherpaw begged. “Crowfeather’s always bad-tempered. It’s just his way. And Breezepaw thinks he’s a warrior already.” – The Dark River

Example of Breezepelt ordering Heatherpaw around:

“Breezepaw sent me to catch mice between the rocks just over the top of the moor, not far from camp. I chased one down into a crack and realized that the crack opened into a tunnel. When I went inside I found that there were tunnels leading everywhere.” – The Dark River.

Breezepaw being ungrateful that Thunderclan saved Heatherpaw:

“We should go,” Brambleclaw meowed. He dipped his head to Onestar. “Those dogs won’t dare come near this part of your territory again.” “If they do, we can manage them by ourselves,” Breezepaw muttered. “Breezepaw!” Nightcloud snapped. “Heatherpaw might have been hurt without this brave apprentice.” She blinked gratefully at Lionpaw. – The Sight.

Heathertail and Breezepelt arguing over his aggression:

The two WindClan warriors flanked them as they crossed the moor. No one spoke, but a low growl rumbled occasionally in Breezepelt’s throat. Heathertail swung her head and glared at her Clanmate.
“Will you stop making that noise!” she growled.
“Do you want to make them feel welcome?” Breezepelt snapped back.
“I think they got the message from Onestar,” Heathertail pointed out. “They don’t need you snarling at them all the way to the hollow. They’re just apprentices.”
“It’ll teach them not to do it again.”
“Just shut up!” Heathertail snorted. “No one died and made you a leader.”
Breezepelt let out a hiss, then was quiet. – Fading Echoes.

Breezepelt clearly never told Heathertail about his Dark Forest training:

Breezepelt rolled his eyes and leaned farther over the bank so that he could talk to the other trainees without Heathertail hearing him. “Look, I don’t want to fight you over this,” he muttered. “But I’ll have to if you keep arguing. Just clear out, okay?” – Forgotten Warrior.

If that wasn’t bad enough, we haven’t even scraped the surface when it comes to Breezepelt’s crimes. Why does Heathertail feel safe becoming mates and having children, with the same cat who tried killing their half-siblings and wished to kill their father? Murdering Family is a line Breezepelt is all too willing to cross and actually his whole motive. And willing apart of the Army leading a genocide against Windclan, which included Heathertail and Nightcloud. Breezepelt was aware of this – the two cats who had faith in him could get killed – yet he did anyway.

“Not straight for the throat!” Breezepelt of WindClan snarled. “Death shouldn’t come too quickly. We must terrify our enemies before we kill them.” – Last Hope.

“Breezepelt?” Brokenstar turned to the WindClan warrior, who was peering at Beetlewhisker’s
body through narrowed eyes. “Did you hear me?” Brokenstar growled quietly. “Why would I leave the strongest Clan?” Breezepelt lifted his head. “My Clan wastes too much time looking after the sick and old. If you led us, we’d never have to beg another Clan for help again.” – Last Hope.

“There you are!” Breezepelt’s eyes shone. “We’re going to launch an attack on the (Windclan) camp.” – Last Hope.

Heathertail knows all this from personal experience with Lionpaw, when he tried killing her and her mentor. And Heathertail is cold and keeps her guard up with every new encounter with Lionblaze and rightfully so. It’s a necessary measure to keep herself getting hurt again.

Heatherpaw’s traumatic experience with another murderous lover:

Behind them Heatherpaw reared up on her hind legs, her blue eyes wide with shock. Lionpaw lunged at her and
grasped her scruff between his teeth. She struggled, wailing, as he dragged her through a wall of ferns and flung her to
the ground in the small clearing beyond. Enclosed in the pale green cave, he pinned her down, letting his paws prick her skin. […] Lionpaw stared down at her, stifling the urge to shred her fur. “I don’t believe you,” he breathed. “You’ve never forgiven me for wanting to be a loyal Clan warrior.” He leaned closer and dug in his claws as she tried to wriggle away from his hot breath. “I’ll never forget this, Heatherpaw. I will be your enemy forever.”

[…] “Get out of my way!” Lionpaw lunged at Crowfeather. Hooking his claws into the dark gray warrior’s neck, he flung him through the ferns and thumped him onto the ground. Still gripping his throat, he leaped on top, tearing at his flesh in a frenzy. Suddenly teeth sank into Lionpaw’s shoulder and claws dug into his flank. Heatherpaw was dragging him off. “Stop it!” she shrieked. “What are you doing?”

Startled by the terror in her voice, Lionpaw froze. Crowfeather lay among the green ferns by his forepaws, bright red blood bubbling at his throat. Heatherpaw crouched over her mentor. “Crowfeather!”
Heathertail’s later response to Lionblaze:

“Meeting Heathertail’s gaze, Lionblaze saw nothing but cold contempt in the eyes of the cat who had once been his friend.” – Sunset.

But when Breezepelt does much worse and is actually a Clanmate, Heathertail is the complete opposite. She’s instantly forgiving/supportive of him directly after the Great Battle, which even Crowfeather couldn’t do. Quite suspicious on if this comes from a heathy place for Heathertail.

Breezepelt doesn’t even know what a healthy relationship is. He’s never had a positive relationship in his life, friend or family. Mistreats all his peers and bystanders with insults, possessive and aggression. Even in Vision of Shadows, he still has his aggressive attitude and shouts hypocritical statements at Gatherings. The closet to functioning relationships he has still had unhealthy aspects to it. There’s no need to get into Crowfeather, as I’m sure you’re fully educated on it already.

With Nightcloud:
“Nightcloud coddled her son, encouraged him to believe he was better than the other warriors, and in doing so, never gave him a chance to prove his own worth. […] His mother’s insistence that he had to answer to no one gave Breezepelt a dangerous arrogance” – Ultimate Guild.

“Nightcloud should trust her son to prove his own worth, without leaping in to defend him first. […] Breezepaw shares his mother’s arrogance, but perhaps we can forgive his readiness to draw blood in defense od his Clan.” – Cats of the Clans.

“Breezepelt writhed, snarling. “I always knew you hated me!” “I never hated you!” Crowfeather growled. “That’s just what you were determined to believe. And Nightcloud encouraged you.” – Last Hope.

“Nightcloud had carried Breezepaw like a kit. His hind legs had dragged over the forest floor, but he was too exhausted by
shock to complain. Crowfeather had padded beside his mate the whole way, offering to help, but Nightcloud kept hold of
her kit as though she might lose him again at any moment.” – The Sight.

(Example of Nightcloud unessarily defencing of her son. And supporting Breezepaw’s overreaction to Crowfeather’s perfectly normal question) “No damage to the barrier,” Breezepaw called. “Have you checked it all the way around?”Crowfeather asked. Breezepaw glared at his father. “Of course! That’s what Whitetail ordered me to do.” Nightcloud stepped forward. “You should have more faith in our son, Crowfeather,” she chided. “Whitetail’s my mentor, not you,” Breezepelt added.
And the earlier quotes that Heathertail often doesn’t have good interactions with Breezepelt either. Breezepelt has no experience to speak of when it comes to having healthy relationships – So how is he meant to know how to act being a mate or father? It’s highly unlikely Breezepelt can even handle it, coming straight off the attempts murders of his own family.

And going into slightly more questionable evidence in the form of the Erin Hunters. During an Erin Chat during 2009, a Fan asked Vicky if Heathertail and Breezepelt are in love. This was years before Vision of Shadows and they were confirmed mates.

Question:Does Heathertail still like Lionblaze? Or are her and Breezepelt really in love?
Answer: Vicky Holmes: Poor Heathertail, I suspect part of her heart still belongs to Lionblaze even though she knows it is an Impossible Love (yay, one of my favourite things!). No way are she and Breezepelt in love! Although their relationship is more complicated than “just friends”.

If one of the Authors – finds the idea of Breezepelt and Heathertail being in love outlandish, doesn’t say something? In the eyes of Vicky at least, they were never functional as a couple and if they were, it certainly wouldn’t work. At least, certainly not a healthy pairing. Vicky even states they’re not even proper mates. Instead, they have a complicated, confusing and murky relationship that doesn’t even count as love.

Now for the loosest piece of evidence, is a Youtube video: “Liking Heathertail? – Harestar: Day 3 – Warrior Cats Speedpaint/Theory” (Quickly search if you need to, less then 2 minutes, so it’s no issue.)

It talks about supposed comment Vicky made about: Harespring had a crush on Heathertail but Breezepelt threatened him during Dark Forest training, so he would stay away. Considering Vicky often likes to have off-handed small stories and there are no strange details – I’ll say it’s more likely to be true, just not tracked now yet. Now if this is true, this just completely speaks for itself. That Breezepelt threatened his own clanmate just to hog a single Heathertail’s romantic interest. If there’s any form of threatening, it atomically can’t be healthy.

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mellowix
mellowix
March 28, 2019 1:56 pm

Just as a reminder to everyone – Heathertail doesn’t make any physical appearance. Nor does Breezepelt have any interactions with their father, their appearances are just as generics apprentices/warriors.

So for those who say Heathertail/Breezepelt are happy/healthy, it’s just as much as an assumption/headcanon as mine saying it’s unhealthy. “Happy family” isn’t the default for unknown family relationships after all. However looking at a logical basic, which I’m attempting to it, there’s much stronger evidence Breezepelt isn’t capable of a healthy relationship, considering he literally doesn’t know what that is. And he’s a literal murderer of his half-siblings, also wishing death on his father.

Even the one regularly considered the “Best” with Nightcloud or Heathertail, ain’t good. Nightcloud possesivness. And like this article provided, the entirely of apprenticeship, Breezepaw was being controlling of Heatherpaw, along side every other apprentice. Heatherpaw was almost killed by a violent lover, Lionpaw. And Breezepelt turned into a killer of his own family and innocent bystander, which include pregnant queens. In their warriorhood, had that massive argument for Breezepelt’s aggression towards apprentices.

Thought out the entirety of Power of the Three and Omen of the Stars, Heathertail and Breezepelt have nothing but negative interactions. That’s a majority of their life. They are never getting over that to be a “happy couple”.


- Mellowix

mellowix
mellowix
March 28, 2019 5:12 pm
Reply to  mellowix

*Spelling Correction – Just as a reminder to everyone – Heathertail doesn’t make any physical appearance in *Vision of Shadows*.


- Mellowix

Prowlclaw
Prowlclaw
March 28, 2019 6:36 pm

I don’t agree with this article at all. It is in the same light as assuming that Thistleclaw and Snowfur were in an abusive relationship and a lot of the quotes reflect that. What you are doing in this article is showing what a bad cat he is, which I wouldn’t have a problem with, but you seem to think that it makes him an abusive father/mate. That is definitely not the same thing. For one, you undermine Heathertail’s character by implying that she can be stepped by Breezepelt and that she is not capable of complaining or standing up to him. The quote you showed here,

The two WindClan warriors flanked them as they crossed the moor. No one spoke, but a low growl rumbled occasionally in Breezepelt’s throat. Heathertail swung her head and glared at her Clanmate.
“Will you stop making that noise!” she growled.
“Do you want to make them feel welcome?” Breezepelt snapped back.
“I think they got the message from Onestar,” Heathertail pointed out. “They don’t need you snarling at them all the way to the hollow. They’re just apprentices.”
“It’ll teach them not to do it again.”
“Just shut up!” Heathertail snorted. “No one died and made you a leader.”
Breezepelt let out a hiss, then was quiet.– Fading Echoes.

In this quote, the hissing wasn’t being directed at Heathertail, but she still stood up for the apprentices. She even argues back and retorts. Best of all, Breezepelt LISTENS TO HER. This shows that he has a form of respect for her and is actually submissive toward her. Breezepelt also has a visibly hard time expressing what he wants and Heathertail knows that. In your quote again,

“You’re not going to waste your time chatting to these two, are you?” The black-pelted WindClan apprentice sat down beside Heatherpaw. “Ivypaw and Owlpaw have just challenged Berrypaw to a competition to see who can jump the highest.” He licked a forepaw and drew it over his ear. “Why don’t you go and watch it, then?” Heatherpaw replied. “Why don’t you come with me?” A challenging glint sparked in Breezepaw’s eye.” – The Dark River

Breezepelt is just inviting Heathertail to join him in watching the challenge. The challenging glint shows that he is going to insist on Heathertail coming with him. If he was a bad mate, he would’ve just snapped at her for talking to them and left. But you can see his intentions were in fact just to invite Heathertail over. Sure, he is aggressive toward the other clans, but that doesn’t equate to him being a bad mate. In fact, most of the quotes you show prove my point that he doesn’t show his true nature around the other clan cats. You know who also did the same thing? Longtail, Dustpelt, Sandstorm, ect. It doesn’t mean they are bad mates or parents, just that they aren’t friendly to outsiders.

You also saying that he can’t have a healthy relationship because he has none to speak of makes me a little disappointed. He knows what a healthy relationship looks like because others around him are better off than he is. If he didn’t know what a healthy one looked like, he wouldn’t be arguing with his parents about his treatment. He also has Heathertail, who could’ve easily left him for another cat, but she saw him going down a dangerous path and helped him. In Crowfeather’s trial, we actually see him inside wind clan and how he really treats Heathertail and his kits. I personally think he is already doing a much better job than Crowfeather ever did.

Also, one more thing. I wouldn’t trust author chats because the authors sometimes say one thing but are contradicted by another. For one, Vicky is not an author anymore and stopped writing the main books when omen of the stars was out. She was more of an editor. If the new writers write them as mates, then they are mates. Same with the debate about Dovewing having blue or green eyes.

mellowix
mellowix
March 28, 2019 10:16 pm
Reply to  Prowlclaw

Breezepelt’s actions towards outsiders should definitely be used as a reference to what Breezepelt would be like towards his family. It doesn’t matter if someone aims their bad behaviour at a specific group, that still makes them a bad person in general. And it’s not just other Clan cats, it’s his own half-siblings and wished death upon his father. If he’s a danger to his older family, he’s a danger to his younger one. Also, Heathertail has proven herself to be apologist/push-over when it comes to Breezepelt, at least when they are apprentices. There are quotes of her literally admitting she knows how controlling Breezepaw is and his behaviour is wrong, but asks Lionpaw not to judge him, even though he should:

“It’s hard to believe, but Breezepaw can be great fun on a good day.” (Take note of “good day”, this implies him being “fun” is rare and he’s difficult a majority of time.) – The Sight

At the Gathering, he rudely questions Heatherpaw’s choose in peers and pressures her away:

“You’re not going to waste your time chatting to these two, are you?” The black-pelted WindClan apprentice sat down beside Heatherpaw. “Ivypaw and Owlpaw have just challenged Berrypaw to a competition to see who can jump the highest.” He licked a forepaw and drew it over his ear. “Why don’t you go and watch it, then?” Heatherpaw replied. “Why don’t you come with me?” A challenging glint sparked in Breezepaw’s eye.” – The Dark River

Heatherpaw feels the need to apology for someone else she knows is in the wrong:

“Please don’t be angry,” Heatherpaw begged. “Crowfeather’s always bad-tempered. It’s just his way. And Breezepaw thinks he’s a warrior already.” – The Dark River

Example of Breezepelt ordering Heatherpaw around:

“Breezepaw sent me to catch mice between the rocks just over the top of the moor, not far from camp. I chased one down into a crack and realized that the crack opened into a tunnel. When I went inside I found that there were tunnels leading everywhere.” – The Dark River.

Also in Vision of Shadows, Smokehaze, Breezepelt’s daughter, shows some suspicious signs. As in Darkest Night at the Gathering, it’s noted how strangely shy Smokepaw is compared to the other apprentices, not saying anything and staying close to her mentor. This is also said by Alderheart of all cats. Who already deals with anxiety, so for even him to consider Smokepaw’s shyness strange, you know it has to be abnormally bad – Very likely to be more then just her “natural personality”.

Thistleclaw isn’t a good example, considering Spottedleaf’s Heart exists. Also even in Bluestar’s Prophecy, Thistleclaw wasn’t a good family man. He threatened Bluefur to stay away from her own nephew, against his mate’s wishes. (For reference this is just before the Tiny/Scourge scene)


- Mellowix

Foxtail (Foxie)
Foxtail (Foxie)
March 28, 2019 10:45 pm
Reply to  mellowix

I agree with Prowlclaw!


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Prowlclaw
Prowlclaw
March 30, 2019 4:23 am
Reply to  mellowix

You have to remember that you are making assumptions on what he did pre-dark forest attack. He was being brainwashed by killing machines to turn his anger into violence. Before the dark forest, he never talked about killing his family or his clan mates. Sure, he hated them, but he would’ve never killed them (Proven by the fact that he could’ve attacked his father, mother, and clan mates at any time, but didn’t). Everyone was under the oath to kill their own clan. I mean, Ivypool killed a cat and Antpelt turned pure evil even though he was under the pretense of becoming a better warrior for his clan. Everyone pretty much was. Same for Breezepelt. He hated other clans and was aggressive, but you have to remember that all the clans (with the exception of most cats in Thunderclan), everyone hated each other. It was like that for moons and before Firestar, everyone was like that too. Like I said above, cats were still good mates/ parents to their kits (ie. Sandstorm, Dustpelt, Longtail, and a lot more)

For the Heathertail statement, you are blatantly misinterpreting it. Never does she say Breezpelt is controlling and she is only talking about his mood. She is simply saying that Breezepelt isn’t always grumpy and can in fact be a fun person to be around when the time is right. Breezepelt is naturally grumpy, same for Jayfeather. Like Jayfeather, there are days when he is not as gloomy and she is just saying that he isn’t always that bad. Meaning, that his behavior that day was just one of the worst.

Also, If Heathertail was a pushover, she wouldn’t have completely cut ties with Lionblaze after he mauled her mentor. She would probably try to forgive Lionblaze, but instead she holds him in a cold glare and never speaks to him as a friend again.

I also already explained what i think about the gathering scene. If you read my post, you could respond to that.

Heathertail was apologizing for both Breezepelt AND Crowfeather. Of course she would apologize because they are on thin ice in terms of relationships with other clans. Warriors think with their claws and not their brains. Whoever Heathertail was talking to was also being aggressive toward Breezepelt and Crowfeather when they insulted them. They aren’t going to wait for the two to apologize, and I suspect Heathertail was the one who wanted to talk to the other clan cat to begin with. They have no reason to treat the other clan with respect and therefore, Heathertail is he mediator who has to make sure both sides can communicate without the other side attacking the other. If anything, she is just more open to treating others on equal level, while the later is more traditional.

When Breezepelt is sending Heathertail to catch a mouse, it could’ve been her way of explaining that they split up to cover more ground. For example, Firepaw and Greypaw are sent to go hunting. They reach a crossroad and Firepaw tells Greypaw to get Sunning rocks while he gets the training hollow. Pretty simple reasoning if you ask me. If he was actually bossing her around, she wouldn’t have told them about or she would’ve made a much bigger deal out of it.

Ok, for Breezepelt’s daughter, that is a really far stretch. For one, that is only ONE of his daughter, not both of them. And two, it could be anything, not just her father. Ravenpaw was unusually shy, but that was because of his murderous mentor. If they were really implying that her father was abusive, they would’ve shown a scene with her and her father. But instead they show her clinging to her mentor and being shy. I’m pretty sure she is just shy.

Spottedleaf’s heart was way after Snowfur’s death and his son was already a full fledged warrior. This was way after his family had gone. Thistleclaw loved his own family. Bluefur is not his family. You also have to remember that Bluefur also wanted Snowfur to stay away from Thistleclaw for almost no reason. So I’d say it’s pretty even.

Brindlefern
Brindlefern
April 1, 2019 11:24 am
Reply to  Prowlclaw

Preach.


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mellowix
mellowix
March 28, 2019 10:27 pm
Reply to  Prowlclaw

Heathertail had to go through the terrifying experience of a murderous lover with Lionpaw, almost having herself and mentor murdered. And she reacts in a suitable way towards, always keeping her guard around Lionblaze from then on, so she wouldn’t get hurt again. So she should be the last cat who want to become mates with an exposed murderer of his own family. Under healthier circumstances, Heathertail would have much slower to forgive Breezepelt, certainly not friends or mates with him. Specially after being in the same position his victims were in, like Jayfeather . However, she’s not. She’s the complete opposite, being Breezpelt’s biggest supporter, forgiving almost too quickly – Strongly implying this is not coming from a heathy place.


- Mellowix

Brindlefern
Brindlefern
March 29, 2019 3:01 am
Reply to  Prowlclaw

YES!
THANK YOU PROWLCLAW THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN TRYING TO SAY! :’D


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Littlefang
Littlefang
March 28, 2019 10:25 pm

I like the couple, honestly. Breezepelt is one of my favorite characters, he learned so much and is a dynamic character…


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♡ Moon (Moonbreeze) ♡
♡ Moon (Moonbreeze) ♡
March 30, 2019 1:19 am

I’m not sure what my opinion is on this topic – however, I thought your use of text evidence was more compelling and convincing than just stating your opinion and mentioning events. Good job! 🙂


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Sunpaw who was Ravenshard (Lux)
Sunpaw who was Ravenshard (Lux)
April 2, 2019 12:28 am

hmm… it doesn’t seem very healthy…..


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turq
turq
April 25, 2019 10:04 am

Great article. Seems a bit crazy that Heathertail chose him when not even his own Clanmates like Breezepelt. So frustrating that his attack on Poppyfrost never got out.

Darkshade
Darkshade
May 19, 2020 5:05 am

Crowfeather’s Trial proves this wrong. In the book they truly care about each other.

Jayda
Jayda
September 22, 2020 12:34 pm

If I hadn’t read Crowfeather’s trial then I’d agree but that book shows how much the two love and care for one another but of course I’m not going to excuse his previous actions.

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Spooky Scary Frost Who Hates The Monster Mash
October 15, 2020 1:29 pm

I ship Breezepelt and Ivypool, don’t ask. Every fanfic I read it has breezepool


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