Defending Hollyleaf by Daykit

Daykit shares their opinion on Hollyleaf.

Art by Marshcold

Today I shall defend one of my favorite characters: Hollyleaf
Now sometimes I don’t understand why they give her hate! She is a great character, has good lore(i watch mcyt so i just say lore) AND has made one of the best ships ever! Fallen X Holly. But: I will rant so here we go! Defending Hollyleaf, let’s do this. (pot and hollyleaf’s something spoilers) Oh: and also thank you to Jaypaw for motivating me to do this. You’ve made me more excited to do this than I would.

“I hate Hollyleaf because she tried to poison Leafpool”
Ok, listen here everyone who says this. SHE HAD A REASON TO DO THIS. If you were very loyal to the code and found out your birth was everything against it would you be mad? I would. Hollyleaf was EXTREMELY loyal to the code and she tried to not break it. But when she heard that basically existing was against it, she lost it. But that will lead me into the next rant

“I hate Hollyleaf because she killed an innocent cat”

Ok, listen listen. ASHFUR IS NOWHERE NEAR INNOCENT!! Out of wrath of causing Squirrelflight to expose Leafpool she killed him! As Jaypaw says in her or his or their article:
So Ashfur threatened to kill the kits, Squirrel blurted that they weren’t hers, and Ash threatened to reveal it at a Gathering. Here is where I start to hate Holly. If she had just killed Ash, I wouldn’t like her, but I would understand where she was coming from. But the fact that: She killed him, then went and REVEALED IT HERSELF SO HE DIED FOR NO REASON. Then, she found out Leafpool was her mother, that made Bramble angy, he broke up with Squirrel, and then Hollyleaf tried to make Leafpool eat DEATHBERRIES. Then, they went looking for Sol, tried to blame HIM for the murder when he was innocent, (well, innocent for THAT), and then she ran away, and made everyone worry about her. Seriously, WHY IS SHE IN STARCLAN I MEAN, SHE IS JUST AS BAD AS MAPLESHADE AND TIGERSTAR.

Sheeeeesh. Ok: listen up. Hollyleaf is absolutely NOWHERE near as evil as Tigerstar and Mapleshade. Tigerstar killed two cats.. Mapleshade killed three. Hollyleaf only killed one!
AND SHE REGRETTED IT unlike those other two. Plus: Ashfur literally deserved to die. Now time to move on to some off topic stuff why you shouldn’t hate Holly.

1. She has made a good ship: Fallen X Holly

2. LORE! As someone who gets all her information from spoilers and has only finished Fire and Ice, I’m more excited for it then I would be with Technoblade lore.

3. She made us all cry! Her death was sad enough to make most of us cry! Most of us!

4. ASHFUR IZ DEADD WHOOOHOO

5. before DotC I’m pretty sure she introduced : **Ancient Cats**

THANK YOU for reading my big rant I hope you had enough time to read all of it. I hope I changed your mind and correct me on any mistakes, I have not read Hollyleaf’s something or PoT.

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21 comments

  • Turtlepaw🐢🐢🐢(They/Them, Xe/Xem, Tey/Tem, Ae/Aem, Ot/Ots, Mae/Mim, Sae/Sear, Je/Jem, He/Him, Se/Hem, Ke/Kem, Re/Rem, Bun/Buns) says:

    Hollyleaf is a great character who doesn’t deserve hate! <3
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  • Hollyleaf is NOT innocent. Sure, her crimes are less worst than Mapleshade and Tigerstar but she had the choice to murder. Murders choose to murder people.

    • Yes, I understand that she killed Ashfur, and I understand that murder (usually) cannot be justified, but I believe this one can be. First, she had her reasons. Imagine this: There is a thunderstorm and a fire. You, your mother, and your siblings are trapped in your house. Suddenly, your brother’s middle school teacher blocks the only exit, threatens to burn up your mother, and threatens to murder you and your siblings. Then, after hearing a very shocking statement, that supposedly “loyal” friend goes to the president’s house to tell a secret that will get you, your mother, and your siblings banished from the country. Hmm… that’s a bit harsh Ashfur. So, that probably gives you an idea of why Hollyleaf wanted to kill Ashfur. Second [second reason of why her murder is justifiable], she repented. As shown in Hollyleaf’s Story, Hollyleaf admitted that Ashfur’s death had been all for nothing, and she sincerely regretted even thinking of killing him. She wanted her Clanmates to forgive her, but to do that, she had to reveal herself and let ThunderClan actually know that she was still alive. Hmm… this story sounds strangely familiar…. Third [third reason of why her murder was justifiable], she had character development in the end, and she decided to change her behavior. Instead of believing that the warrior code was the “root of life,” like she used to think, she decided to be more open-minded with the code. There could be some exceptions, and not every cat who broke the code deserved to be punished by StarClan. This was literally one of the best moments in Hollyleaf’s backstory!!! Hollyleaf, unlike others, decided to change her behavior and her way of thinking to suit her way of life. Wow, that’s just… pure awesomeness. ~ Cloudy

      • So it is awesome to kill a cat? Your point is entirely based on your opinion and thoughts. Hollyleaf is not innocent and I firmly disagree.
        Her reasons are called motives. Reasons are more of doing something, while motive is the incentive to do something. I can understand she is angry and frustrated, but it does not justify for murder. She actually killed Ashfur, and in my opinion it does matter. Ashfur might be ew but still, no matter what murder is murder. People that kill murders still go to jail. Murders have family and friends that care about him that are not murders. They will be sad and angry about his or her death. You don’t care about how Ferncloud, Cloudtail, and Thornclaw reacted when he died. Even though they realize that Ashfur was a murder, they will still have the mental pain of Ashfur being killed.
        You say Ashfur was harsh on Squirrelflight. I think Hollyleaf was also harsh. She ignored and wanted Squirrelflight to die in Night Whispers. She try to kill her biological mother with death berries. Personality develop does not justify anything. Hollyleaf’s Story is just like Mapleshade’s Vengeance. It clears up Hollyleaf’s actions because Erins love Hollyleaf. Yes, some part is true like she regretting her actions but like Breezepelt you can’t be redeemed without punishment. Hollyleaf got no punishment. People say death berries incident was because Hollyleaf try to kill her but was scared to do so. Wrong, because 1) she clearly stated that she wanted Leafpool to suffer 2) it is already confirmed by Leafpool’s quote that Hollyleaf did not kill her because she knew living is more hard than dying.
        Fawn out!

        • I’m just gonna stop you at the beginning fawnpaw. You weren’t even paying close attention to all that Mistheart wrote. Also, put yourself in Hollyleaf’s shoes (while being put in a real-life situation).

          You are convicted of murdering just some people (I’m just trying to get to the point), so you’re sent to jail for life. But, over time, you come to realize your mistake and change your personality towards it. Would YOU want to be called evil/unforgivable if you repented? NO! Now, while the people whose family member you killed might have a harder time forgiving you, yes, they will. But they might be able to forgive even the tiniest bit if you were to admit your mistakes and sincerely apologize. So, if you start arguing with me like you did with Mistheart, you’re saying that you wouldn’t care if you actually committed the crime, repented, and weren’t accepted.

        • I’m just gonna stop you at the beginning fawnpaw. You weren’t even paying close attention to all that Mistheart wrote. Also, put yourself in Hollyleaf’s shoes (while being put in a real-life situation).

          You are convicted of murdering just some people (I’m just trying to get to the point), so you’re sent to jail for life. But, over time, you come to realize your mistake and change your personality towards it. Would YOU want to be called evil/unforgivable if you repented? NO! Now, while the people whose family member you killed might have a harder time forgiving you, but I’m going off track. Anyway, so if you start arguing with me like you did with Mistheart, you’re saying that you wouldn’t care if you actually committed the crime, repented, and weren’t accepted.

  • Honestly, I don’t think she had a reason to kill her biological mother who was nice to her all her life and didn’t seem like really proud and some-emotion-that-irks-you-out-in-any-case. Jayfeather, Lionblaze, Mistyfoot and Stonefur never attempted to go to that great length.

    I just hate the way she dealt with it :p

    Nope, she didn’t introduce Ancient Cats, if you’re talking about the whole Fallen Leaves thing. Jaypaw did! Nice article!