[a bust-up drawing of Dovewing smiling beside a frowning Ivypool]

The Ivypool and Dovewing Debate—My Opinion by Jaysong

Jaysong shares their opinion on the sisters from Omen of the Stars.

[a bust-up drawing of Dovewing smiling beside a frowning Ivypool]
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[a bust-up drawing of Dovewing smiling beside a frowning Ivypool]

Hi guys! Jaysong here, welcome back! I know there’s been many arguments about Dovewing and Ivypool. I’m only here to share my opinion on them, so PLEASE don’t be offended! Thank you, let’s get on with it!
Ok, let me start by saying that I’m a great fan of both characters, but when it comes to loyalty and stuff like that, there’s—there’s a difference.Yes, in OoTs, Ivypool trains in the Dark Forest, and yes, in AvoS, Dovewing runs off with Tigerheart’s unborn kits and joins ShadowClan. But here’s my opinion: I think Dovewing should have been a bit more loyal to ThunderClan. You may have a different opinion, but Dovewing honestly just ran away without saying a word. On the other paw, Ivypool did realize the truth and spy for the Clans. She played a great role in the Great Battle by convincing cats to fight for their Clans. What did Dovewing do? Well, she deceived her Clan by becoming Bumblestripe’s mate so suspicions about her and Tigerheart wouldn’t rise. Then, as I said before, she runs away with Tigerheart’s unborn kits and is all like, “Oh I didn’t know this would cause havoc!” Seriously?

There’s also motherhood. Both Dovewing and Ivypool end up having kits in AvoS. Ivypool has Bristlefrost, Flipclaw, and Thriftear. Dovewing has Shadowsight, Pouncestep, and Lightleap. So here’s what this comes down to. How they are with their kits. First off, Ivypool can be very protective of her kits. And I mean VERY. Ivypool is always giving advice to Bristlefrost, and is very understanding towards Flipclaw and Thriftear. *SPOILER ALERT!* In Broken Code, Flipclaw is forced to be a medicine cat apprentice, and then becomes the sole medicine cat with little to no training. Ivypool sticks by her kit the entire time, supporting him and nurturing him. With Thriftear, she is very protective of her daughter, and will do anything to help her kits. With Dovewing, she is a good mother to Shadowsight. But I believe that Dovewing didn’t pay enough attention to Pouncestep and Lightleap.

Lastly, it all comes down to their sisterhood. Honestly, their sisterhood was never very great. Dovewing was always given more attention, which caused Ivypool to grow jealous because she wanted to be noticed for her accomplishments. Which leads to her ending up training with Hawkfrost in the DF. Dovewing is deceitful to her sister about Tigerheart, and pretends that she loves Bumblestripe so her suspicions don’t rise. Dovewing continues to lie to her sister until Tigerheart takes refuge in ThunderClan. Dovewing states, “You don’t know me Ivypool! I love him! Not Bumblestripe!” —Dovewing to Ivypool. Ivypool is always doing what she can to help Dovewing. She advises her not to see Tigerheart, as it could wreak havoc on all five Clans, but Dovewing takes no notice. Ivypool and Dovewing never were close sisters, and I think Tigerheart was the source of the problem.

Anyways, thanks for reading. Again, this is just my opinion, so please don’t be offended! I hope I said something of value. Have a great rest of you day/night!
—Jaysong

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    Great article! I LOVE Ivypool, but I also like Dovewing.

  • I think it’s great. My anger over Dovewing’s betrayal, has always clouded my better judgement. I still think to this day that Ivypool is better

    • You’re right. I was heartbroken at her betrayal, and I love FernIvy :)! I hope Ivypool has a SE so we see that relationship.

  • Great article! I don’t agree with a few points tho :))
    Dovewing didn’t take Bumblestripe as a mate to deceive her Clan, she truly thought they could have a future together but it never really worked out. She never pretended to like him, Ivypool and her other Clanmates were pressuring her to become mates with Bumblestripe when she didn’t want to. They could see how reluctant she was but kept encouraging her. Over time, she began to have feelings for Bumblestripe back but eventually she realized that a future with Bumble wasn’t what she wanted. She was never tricking her Clanmates into thinking anything and everything that happened with Bumblestripe was genuine.
    As for the mother part, Dovewing can be seen being a great mother to not just to Shadowsight but his other littermates as well in Tigerstar’s Shadow and Tawnypelt’s Clan.

    • I see your points, but that’s just how I see it. Dovewing does seem to obsess over Shadowsight much more than Pouncestep and Lightleap.

      • Probably because we only saw Shadowsight’s POV. If we saw Lightleap or Pouncestep’s then I’m sure we’ll be able to see her hanging out with her daughters.