Jackdawpaw lists canon ships that didn’t feel necessary.
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[Thunder looks up at Violet Dawn standing on a rock in front of reeds at dawn]
Hello, this is Jacks here with, guess what, another article! (I’m sorry I must be taking over the schedule :’3) Anyways I’m coming here to discuss some canon ships that I don’t really think were necessary for the plot. And I’m starting with an obvious one:
Thunder x Violet
I haven’t read Moth Flight’s Vision, or Riverstar’s Home, but from what I saw in Dawn of the Clans, I think the ship was just way too rushed and didn’t really change anything in the story. Sure, it was good Thunderstar got a mate, but they could have made that story more interesting. He just saw her ONCE, through a freakin’ BUSH, and bam, iN lOvE! I also found it a bit weird when he was just like “Will you be my mate in the future?” Idk if I was Violet Dawn that would totally be a red flag. Very uncomfortable.
Needle x Rain
There are so many non-canon Needletail ships, but really, does ANYONE actually support Needle x Rain? I feel like it was just an unnecessary part of the story. Alder x Needle is better, tho I’d never want it to be canon. Needle x Violet is kinda good but I like Violet x Tree too much. Needle x Dark… okay now I’m just discussing Needletail ships. (This is my second article this week so I’ll have to send it next week but I soo have to write a Needletail article 😛)
Ivy x Fern
Okay, guys, don’t get me wrong now, I like that Ivypool got a mate and kits, but I’m just like, why Fernsong? He feels like such an unimportant character, plus Ivypool had been a warrior for a pretty long while before he was even born. Couldn’t they pair up Ivypool with some character she already knew from OoTS? And I’m not talking Hawkfrost or Snowtuft or some other disgusting Dark Forest guy (poor Ivypool getting shipped with evil old dudes). I mean, some cat who at least shared her childhood, like *googles OoTS allegiances* Foxleap or Toadstep or something! I know these were bad examples but I’m just a bit sad they paired Ivypool up with a character I barely know or have any feelings about.
Alder x Velvet
Okay guys, I know this isn’t really canon, but I just think Alderheart’s crush was unnecessary. I think I really liked his crush on Needletail and Velvet wasn’t really the same kind of vibes. I like when a silly guy hopelessly falls in love with a stubborn girl, while a silly guy hopelessly falling in love with a bootiful pretty girl just isn’t that interesting.
I honestly can’t think of any more right now and my mom is angry at me for having too much screentime so that’s it lol. Jackdawpaw out!
Great article, Jacki! I agree with most of these, however I still love Ivy x Fern because they’re so cute together in Ivypool’s Heart-
Great job Jackiiiiiiiiiiiii!!!! I agree with everything, except IvyXFern is a cute ship imo 😛
I agree that it’s cute, I just kinda dislike the way he didn’t really have a personality before he became Ivypool’s mate, and I feel like Fernsong developed as a character simply because he was her mate which feels kinda… idk 😛
Nice article! 😀
I mean, don’t get me wrong. IvyFern’s cute and everything, but I agree, they should have paired her up with an older character who was around in Oots 🙂
I agree so much with the Ivy and Fern ship!!! It felt so undeveloped because we never really even knew him!!! I do, though, ship Ivy and Hawk because, Hawk is only old because he has been dead for so long! He died probably at the same age as Ivy. Plus, Holly and Fallen Leaves had the same sort of situation with Fallen dying long before Holly. Anyways, great article!
Great article Jacki! I agree with everything apart from IvyxFern they’re really cute together ;p
Great article, Jacks! I think that Thunderstar and Violet Dawn would be better off friends 😀 I agree with Sharky and Wolfpaw that IvyFern is cute, but you are right that it could have been any other cat :/ ~ Nix
Great article! I still think Fernivy is adorable though. And I’m a Needlerain shipper ToT I just really like them okay (prob cuz I read AVOS first but idkkkk)
Great article Jackie!! I agree with all but Ivy x Fern. They’re kinda cute together ngl 😛
I think we all in the comment section agree Ivy x Fern was a cute ship, but it’s okay to think it might have not been necessary.
Definitely ^^
Great article! However I disagree with IvyXFern and VioletXThunder, they were both really cute ships, and IvyXFern had an impact on Ivypool’s Heart
Nice article! I personally think Thunder’s Crush on Violet Dawn was pretty cute, but I understand why you think that it was rushed and akward – I think so too. Also I agree with basically everyone here: IvyFern is cute 🙂
I would also like to point out that Ivypool and Fernsong are related through Firestar.
Ivypool’s mother is Whitewing, whose father is Cloudtail, whose uncle is Firestar, whose daughter is Leafpool, whose son is Lionblaze, whose son is Fernsong. And i agree that she was alot older than him and that it was kinda random. But ngl they were kinda cute sometimes. Great article, too!!!